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"Music is the Drug" - I call B.S. (pg. 4)
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| electric_soul |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Personally I have no problem staying up until whenever. I'm just a little bit weird that way, I can stay up for 30, even 35 hours straight without getting tired. Getting up on the other hand is something I'm incredibly bad at.
That said, I usually have a fair amount to drink when I go out. I stay away from other drugs, though, because they tend to have extremely unusual effects on me, even medicinal drugs. I've got a few amusing stories out of that. |
omfg, you just described myself. My day lasts 36 hours, is not that I want to, but its.. i'm not sleepy after 18 hours but after 30 :D. First months @ any job has always being HELL. They either fire me after a couple months (from their point of view I oversleep once every 2 days :stongue: ), or acknowledge my work and just let me be after a little whining (my current job went this way).
About thread:
I've read somewhere (could even be here on TA), that as our muscles are stretched from one end to the other of the bones, they're kinda sensitive to sounds (any guitar/bass player knows that strings vibrate because of the sound, actually anyone that is into instruments/music)
I've just tried cannabis, and as some of you may know your synesthesia gets increased due to the slower synapsis. (or perhaps you pay more atention to your senses, and think less about things making it seem like "feeling more", not sure, not the point anyway).
So when you feel the music, that's true. Your muscles are reacting to the vibes :p
Maybe some ppl just get addicted to muscle reaction to sounds, and of course, drugs enhance that. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
So Mon. morning rolls around and I come back to the website to reread what I just wrote, and all I can think of is, "WTF did I write this for?!?"
Apologies to everyone for a long wasteful rant. My panties were in a bunch, someone pissed in my cereal, etc. etc. Yeah, I was a little bitter from talking to a twirp from the previous night, but in truth I catch myself listening to the music without nostalgic moments of being f$cked up all the time (happened all weekend, in fact). I think this guy kinda reminded me of my past evil-alter-ego-self; the part of me I kinda wished I would forget, and that pissed me off. I don't think I acted as ridiculous as he did, but I saw his mentality being someone the same as I once had a couple of years ago, and that got under my skin a little.
As for the rest of my "philosophical" rant about music and drugs, , take it for whatever it's worth. Taking drugs to have a good time is always the intent, and it does compliment the music, no doubt. I guess everyone has a different threshold/breaking point as to when you take the drugs to compliment your good time and music, vs. taking the drugs because they're simply available.
Whatever. Cheers and happy Monday. |
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| butterfly |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
someone pissed in my cereal |
literally? |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by butterfly
literally? |
Oh c'mon! You're not gonna let me off the hook are you?
It's just an expression, silly girl. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Taking drugs to have a good time is always the intent, and it does compliment the music, no doubt. |
i sort of disagree about that comment. i am a firm believer that taking drugs (including alcohol) to escape or severely distort reality is always the intent...people do them because their reality is obviously boring. and i didn't read all the posts in detail but if anyone is arguing about ppl who drink vs. people who do drugs, it's the same damn thing. one of my pet peeves is people who drink and don't do drugs that feel they have the right to put down the drug users as if they are so much better because their choice of substance to get f**** up is legal. but my personal opinion is that the guy who goes out weekend after weekend to get "wasted" on 2 for 1's at the local bar vs. the guy who grabs an 8 ball of coke w/ a group of friends to go dance all night to oakenfold has the same problem. the only difference is that one substance is legal (and more life threatening if you do the math). drugs got me into the scene in the beginning but i have always been about the music. if i look back and think about the most amazing DJ performances i've seen and the most amazing times i've had at a club, i honestly can say that they were the times that i drank club soda and red bulls all night and danced my ass off to nothing but music. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
i sort of disagree about that comment. i am a firm believer that taking drugs (including alcohol) to escape or severely distort reality is always the intent...people do them because their reality is obviously boring. and i didn't read all the posts in detail but if anyone is arguing about ppl who drink vs. people who do drugs, it's the same damn thing. one of my pet peeves is people who drink and don't do drugs that feel they have the right to put down the drug users as if they are so much better because their choice of substance to get f**** up is legal. but my personal opinion is that the guy who goes out weekend after weekend to get "wasted" on 2 for 1's at the local bar vs. the guy who grabs an 8 ball of coke w/ a group of friends to go dance all night to oakenfold has the same problem. the only difference is that one substance is legal (and more life threatening if you do the math). drugs got me into the scene in the beginning but i have always been about the music. if i look back and think about the most amazing DJ performances i've seen and the most amazing times i've had at a club, i honestly can say that they were the times that i drank club soda and red bulls all night and danced my ass off to nothing but music. |
lol that was a little rambly but I think I'm following...
That's not necessarily true for everyone. Usually if I drink, it's 'cause I'm a little bored. Not necessarily utterly bored, but could use some extra excitement.
Weed, for example, is different though. For me, it helps calm me down, slow my mind down, so to speak. Normally, my thoughts move too fast, it's like the conscious part of my brain can't keep up with the unconscious part. And it's been like this for me long before I ever tried weed (I had it for the first time about a year ago, but I've been this way most of my life, and was aware of it long before any alcohol/drugs).
This doesn't have much to do with the original thread, but I thought I'd put my thoughts in... I'm not a pothead, I've only used it 4 or 5 times, so... yeah. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
i sort of disagree about that comment. i am a firm believer that taking drugs (including alcohol) to escape or severely distort reality is always the intent...people do them because their reality is obviously boring. and i didn't read all the posts in detail but if anyone is arguing about ppl who drink vs. people who do drugs, it's the same damn thing. one of my pet peeves is people who drink and don't do drugs that feel they have the right to put down the drug users as if they are so much better because their choice of substance to get f**** up is legal. but my personal opinion is that the guy who goes out weekend after weekend to get "wasted" on 2 for 1's at the local bar vs. the guy who grabs an 8 ball of coke w/ a group of friends to go dance all night to oakenfold has the same problem. the only difference is that one substance is legal (and more life threatening if you do the math). drugs got me into the scene in the beginning but i have always been about the music. if i look back and think about the most amazing DJ performances i've seen and the most amazing times i've had at a club, i honestly can say that they were the times that i drank club soda and red bulls all night and danced my ass off to nothing but music. |
Agreed on much of what you said. I cannot distinguish one drug from the other, nor do I believe they should be distinguished; your example between alcohol and coke is a good one. I should clarify, however, that back in the "hayday" I was not always going out to get f$cked up. Indeed there were times I was actually quite sober - a couple of beers, club sodas, and a few 180's kept me quite happy at times. I was speaking more or less of those times in which we did go out and become quite twisted up this way and that. If I had to give a figure, I'd say 75% of the time f$cked up on whatever, 25% sober (nowadays it's like 90% sober 10% f$cked up).
And yes, I still stand by my notion that the drugs to a large extent complimented the music. That does not mean that folks could not enjoy the music without the drugs, nor does it mean that the nights I was sober I didn't have a blast, but there was definitely a compliment of sorts. However, there was a point in time where the fun of taking drugs to have a good time slowly melted into the point of merely taking them because they were just there. Then somehow, things just weren't quite as fun.
I've always appreciated the music, even way before we started going out often back then. In a certain way, the music during that time more or less complimented us having a good time, and then it complimented us continually getting f$cked up without really caring if we're having a good time or not. Nowadays, those f$cked up times are few and far between (very far between - last June in fact), and my appreciation and respect for what I hear now has grown exponentially. I wish I had that kind of respect for the music back then, and I'm glad I have that present respect as best as I know how.
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| dream_logic |
MrOpis,
What you initially wrote is all true. The addiction of music might not be "sad", but who's to judge that the addiction of music heightened by drugs is "sad" also? I think thats a matter of opinion. I won't go into detail of why or why not drug use should be legal or illegal, but you dont deny that over the years its drugs that have inspired, or uninhibited many musicians to produce beautiful music, thought this isnt to say beautiful music cannot be inpired and written under a normal state. I think every person is an escapist to a certain extent. I believe "to each their own". If slowly shrinking your brain as a means of escape, then so be it, so long as the person does not harm people around them. The world needs more happiness, and I don't really care if it comes from drugs.
peace...pipe.  |
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| Slylee |
| i agree with a lot of what both of you said. there is so much gray area involved in the debate on drugs and music. we could go on forever. i just wanted to make sure that you realize that it IS possible to create and enjoy music sober...but i also realize that drugs have always played a major role in the music industry since the beginning. and i also don't want to give the impression that i have always been this straight edge that always enjoyed music without the use of drugs because that is very far from true. i used to be a pothead/e head/cokehead. i always enjoyed the music while messed up, but i think i agree with misteropus1 about all the fun involved in drugs slowly fizzling out. that's how it happend for me. now "music is my only drug". :p (couldn't resist) |
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| Mrs.Spice |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
i agree with a lot of what both of you said. there is so much gray area involved in the debate on drugs and music. we could go on forever. i just wanted to make sure that you realize that it IS possible to create and enjoy music sober...but i also realize that drugs have always played a major role in the music industry since the beginning. and i also don't want to give the impression that i have always been this straight edge that always enjoyed music without the use of drugs because that is very far from true. i used to be a pothead/e head/cokehead. i always enjoyed the music while messed up, but i think i agree with misteropus1 about all the fun involved in drugs slowly fizzling out. that's how it happend for me. now "music is my only drug". :p (couldn't resist) |
truu truuuuuu
but
it is also important that people who have never done a drug realize that when certain anthems play, all the e tards, former e tards, and occasional X plorers have a completely different X perience:)
even when sober
its iN mY mEmory:) |
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| dream_logic |
There are goods and bads to the drug subculture, but I just want to say to people, "don't judge unless you've done it". Some drugs are not good for you at all and could totally ruin you. But, I do think though, that mature drug use (if I can use this loosely), opens up new views on life, personal struggles, etc, thats pretty close to impossible to achieve in a normal state due to the way society is today. The knowlege gained, and perspectives seen through mind/conciouness altering drugs do stay with you long after drug use. Its only because of the current system of things, the current accepted ways of thought, knowlege and thinking, the unessecities that we've made necesities... that puts drug use in a dark area. But then again, most people will think I'm too idealistic. Shamans and natives all around the world have been using drug use to heighten them into a state where they can percieve "other worldly" knowlege. Hindu mystics smoke more hemp in a day then most druggies in a week, yet they are viewed as holy. Whats my point? To each thier own. :D
Again, this is just my opinion.
Peace...pipe. |
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| MERTON |
| i say music and video games!! the only drug i need is some alergy pills and some effexor (prescribed to keep my anxiety down... i can be nervous in unfamiliar situations) and i'm set!!! none of that bad crap for me:D |
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