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Dj Mag Top100 Dj's Results (pg. 6)
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
I agree....the list is a joke....
Tiesto SHOULD NOT be number 1...maybe number 1 on the pop charts:rolleyes: ..but not as a DJ....not when he is becoming as cheesy as Johan Gielen...soon Tiesto will be headlining Trance Energy aka Cheese Festival....
I also agree with TTA in EVERYTHING he said. |
boy....never thought i'd hear that come out of you... |
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| torontotrance |
me either
agree with everything i said..:crazy: |
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| dj tek |
| cant stand ppl that are obsessed with djs and fails to see the truth.. biased to the mothain max.. always somehow try to see the good in the bad that they do and cant admit that they simply sucked, or ed up... pretty pathetic and it happens in ta ALOT.. after i make my point and if i see them acting with the tendencies ive mentioned, i just ignore.. cuz it aint worth it to try and explain what color blue is to the blind. |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
cant stand ppl that are obsessed with djs and fails to see the truth.. biased to the mothain max.. always somehow try to see the good in the bad that they do and cant admit that they simply sucked, or ed up... pretty pathetic and it happens in ta ALOT.. after i make my point and if i see them acting with the tendencies ive mentioned, i just ignore.. cuz it aint worth it to try and explain what color blue is to the blind. |
no, that's wrong. because there is no truth. this is not a science, it is not a religion. it is art. people appreciate it from their perspective taste and there's nothing you can do about it, except for unstable people that follow bandwagons. |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
no, that's wrong. because there is no truth. |
yes there is... the truth is that sometimes a track simply doesnt go anywhere, or that a dj has done a poor job[or a great job], or simply ed up a mix.. thats truth WITHIN the art itself.. |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
yes there is... the truth is that sometimes a track simply doesnt go anywhere, or that a dj has done a poor job[or a great job], or simply ed up a mix.. thats truth WITHIN the art itself.. |
a mix might get ed up with a trainwreck, that's a technical fact. but when judging a set in general terms or whether two tracks are mixable or not there aren't any facts, it's all based on subjective opinions, whether you back 'em up or not. |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
a mix might get ed up with a trainwreck, that's a technical fact. but when judging a set in general terms or whether two tracks are mixable or not there aren't any facts, it's all based on subjective opinions, whether you back 'em up or not. |
who was talkin about 2 tracks being mixable or not ? i stated what i believe are truths in this artform we all love in my previous post. |
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| infinity HiGH |
the only trance dj's i'd like to see win are PvD, Orkidea (no chance), J00F (no chance).
DJ's that I think deserve it are Sasha (he's done a complete 180 from last year imo), Lawler, Burridge, PvD (number 4 has got to be getting boring). Holden and Zabiela definately deserve to be in the top 10.
But alas, this is a popularity contest and we'll probably see some popular, cheesey trance DJ win it :rolleyes: |
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| Asperge |
| In the dutch forums there is a rumour going PVD has won. Dunno anything about this, probably just pure speculations. |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
who was talkin about 2 tracks being mixable or not ? i stated what i believe are truths in this artform we all love in my previous post. |
oh because i very well know what you're referring to ;). and i insist, there is no truth in music appreciation. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
That's true, he did crash and burn at the end of last year....But he came back stronger than ever. It's just that the big events that have been broadcasted are not really representative of his standard style in the clubs. I've seen Tiesto over 12 times in my life, 6 times alone in 2003. I really really think that Tiesto 2003 is more deserving of this award than Tiesto 2002.
Compare him to Oakey all you want, but Tiesto has always maintained his authentic and unique style and has never sacrificed that sound. I've been a hardcore Tiesto fan since early 1998, and still remain his supporter because I've witnessed and understood his artistic evolution, which I happen to agree with. Yes, he admires Oakey (as you said, anyone who doesn't give him the historic credit that he's due is a noob). Of course his going to be inspired by what Oakey did in the past. That is the norm in the art world. If you knew a thing about Van Gogh you would know that a lot of his portfolio is based on quoting, or the 'influence', that Rembrandt and other great artists of the past had on him. Yes, Tiesto has crashed and burned and played some pretty mediocre sets. But his artistry has never been sacrificed, and his tracklistings as well as his productions keep getting more mature and complex with time. I can't say the same about any other trance dj.
As genres, I much prefer prog, techno, breaks and even dnb because I think that 90% of trance is too stale, formulaic and ultimately mediocre. But Tiesto is one of the few exceptions, and he has taken the message to the masses, which is why he deserves to win this POPULARITY contest. Yes, people like James Zabiela and Lee Burridge are amazing djs with very impressive skills. But their impact as artists in the global scale is not nearly enough for comparing them with the djs in the Top10 such as Carl Cox, Oakenfold, PvD, Tiesto and such. Even if they ARE better djs (according to YOUR taste), there's NO way in hell to empiricize that.
If this wasn't a popularity contest and it was based solely on dj skills then where the is QBERT? Where is Mixmaster Mike? Why is Andy C so far behind? All of these guys have much more technical skill than any dance dj, that's not even a question.
So the popular vote is based on subjective tastes of the general clubbing public (with most votes coming from the home of DJ MAG0-UK), but it IS a general public that is "in the know". If it was based on purely commercial mainstream appeal then we would see Sammy, Darude, IvD, Lasgo and company in the Top 10, but they're not even in the poll aren't they?
My point is, this poll is not representative of either 'technical' skill and not representative of commercial mainstream appeal either. It's a poll that judges djs from a 'clubbing' perspective, and the results are fairly balanced in that sense. |
Probally the BEST post i have ever seen you write on any board....though i disagree on some points...it was well said and respectful:gsmile: |
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| teo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Asperge
In the dutch forums there is a rumour going PVD has won. Dunno anything about this, probably just pure speculations. |
did they already started?? ppppfffff! |
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