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how long before you could beatmatch? (pg. 3)
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| Clyde77 |
tok me 2 months..
no instructor or anything.
iwas just bymyself
it was too hard esp cuz i odnt know if im doing it right or wrong.
but ye. i think its jst the hours you spend with your tables.
the more u spend time with em the more you can make yourself beatmatch faster. it actually easy its just the matter of knowing if the track is faster/slower than the otehre track.. work it from there.
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| Misty Kitty |
| I've had my decks about 3.5 months now, i can beat match fine on a good night, was doing so after about 6weeks. However the pitch on my numarks (1650's) don't seem to be sensitive enough. Will match, then adjust accordingly as it slips, then it slips the other way. Re-adjust and it slips back :( a little frustrating to say the least, any suggestions? (other than buy new decks :rolleyes: ) |
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| Clyde77 |
| ^^ maybe try to adjust the weight of your tone arm |
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| DJ G-Nome |
| I think it took me about 3 months after I got my 1200's to get it down right. Before that, almost never on my old 1970 something belt drives. Now after 3 years it really comes naturally. |
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| progressivepey |
| quote: | Originally posted by dknylady
as for beatmatching 4 trax perfectly the first time you touched the tables, i'm sorry, i just can't believe that. i do know that before your ear is trained you cannot hear the trainwrecking at all (i've been through it) so it might have sounded perfect to you and the other people. now you should get some experieced djs to critique your mixing, that will really help to tell if you are REALLY beatmatching properly. |
she's totally right.. after about six months of spinning i thought i was this , but then i actually started recording my mixes and found out that they weren't as perfectly matched as i had originally thought. make sure you record them and listen to them later. once i began doing this i improved dramatically in a few weeks.. when you have those speakers bumping and those headphones jacked up, it's hard to tell if your beats are matched and how the mix is going.. the best advice i can give you is to record everything and listen to it later. i've been recording every single mix i've made for the past three months and i've seen some drastic changes in just about every aspect of how i mix. i highly recommend it.
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| Prodigy Child |
| For me it took nearly a year before I could do endless mixing without trainwrecking, but I had a pretty tough time with my equipment, I had these black belt driven Soundlabs, that had NO torque, couldn't hold pitch for more than a few seconds, and a mixer that had the very basics, not even gains, just faders, and to make it worse it was second hand and in kinda bad shape, but hey I was like nearly 12 when I got these, its all I could afford, and I didn't know anything about DJing other than I wanted to do it because I'd been listening to trance and house for like just over a year by then, but when I learned to mix on those and be changing the pitch accordingly all the time, slap me on techs whenever, and I could do it with my eyes closed, humm that gives me an idea. |
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| Acid John |
| in terms of skill, i didnt start off the best way. at first, i was COMPLETELY reliant on the beat lights on my mixer. i still attempted to mix in my headphones, but almost all the time, i was looking down at the beat lights... i dont know how long i went on with this, but eventully i forced myself to do things without the beat lights. i had a 2xLP set of records by DJ Vortex, and i discovered that all the songs had the same BPM. so i started practicing with these records, and within the same day, the concept of beatmatching clicked... |
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| IKKI-ZUVK |
| quote: | Originally posted by Luke Terry
i still cant |
LOL Same here dude ! |
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| Nabistai |
| quote: | Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
LOL Same here dude ! |
Probably with the difference that he was joking ;) :p |
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| VIO |
| quote: | Originally posted by dknylady
as for beatmatching 4 trax perfectly the first time you touched the tables, i'm sorry, i just can't believe that. i do know that before your ear is trained you cannot hear the trainwrecking at all (i've been through it) so it might have sounded perfect to you and the other people. now you should get some experieced djs to critique your mixing, that will really help to tell if you are REALLY beatmatching properly. |
well, believe it or not it's true. arsalan posted that he was able to beatmatch his first time as well. remember that trainwrecking and having to making small corrections when the tracks go slightly out of phase are two different things. a trainwreck is a ruined mix. i never said i didn't have to make corrections to the tracks while they were playing but i didn't come close to trainwrecking. mixing records is *so* easy. i could easily tell if two tracks were even slightly out of phase especially with the studio monitors that i use. i started producing two years before i started djing, but the tracks i produced weren't really tracks meant for djs. they were still electronic but not really your standard dj fare. about three months before i started djing i used to load up a bunch of pvd, digweed, sasha and other dj's full sets on my computer and listen to them when i went to bed and let them play all night. i'm sure that helped me train my ear to tell when the beats were even slightly off. as for phasematching that's really easy too. that comes natural for anyone who's produced or was a musician before they started djing. djing in general is just really really easy. once you know how to beatmatch everything else is just cake. about 3 years ago paul oakenfold's agent told paul that djing was easy and that he was just playing other peoples music, no big deal. paul challenged her to play a live set at a club. she practiced for three months and ended up rocking the club. needless to say, oaky lost the bet. anyone can do it. i've never really understood why people are so enamored by djs. all we really do is play two tracks at the same speed and blend them together. it's the easiest job in the music industry. djing is just like anything else. some people pick it up really quickly and some take a bit more practice. just because i was able to do it the first time doesn't make me a better dj then everyone else, i just had lot's of musical training before i started that i'm sure contributed to it. also, i didn't have to learn how to dj i watched some djs and it just "clicked" with me. besides, i never said that i've never trainwrecked. i just didn't then. i was having a good day. |
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| IKKI-ZUVK |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nabistai
Probably with the difference that he was joking ;) :p |
You're probab;y right LOL |
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