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| The Highroller |
| If someone listens to some house music (not all) and says it doesn't have any soul, they are just plain ignorant. |
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| hadi burpee |
| ive got into this argument with my friends before, but never my parents, haha, my mom just gets mad if it is too loud. one of my friend said it wasnt real music, and i told her you, and not to say that again, haha |
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| dosed |
| I know what you're talking about, it pisses me off when people say that electronic music isn't 'real music', it makes them seem a bit musically ignorant or stuck-up, thinking their preferred style/genre is in some way better than yours. |
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| butterfly |
i agree that electronic music takes less musical talent with respect to djs. anyone can put two records together. i think that there are different levels of talent for a dj based on how well they put a set together and make their audience feel, but i think that is quite different from musical composition.
when it comes to producing music, i think that electronic music is just as challenging as conventional genres and requires as much talent. |
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| drizzt81 |
I guess his argument is that 'other' music is made using instruments made from 'living' things like trees etc.
Of course, it is hard for me to argue his side, seeing that I think that there is no difference in between these forms of music. I guess he is just disappointed that nobody is singing in this music, which -in his oppinion- might be the purest form of espression for oneself. Therefore nobody is putting his 'soul' into the music.
I get his point, but i think he is wrong. It is just the typical way to approach something that is 'unknown' in order to make it seem less valid. Bottom line: He doesn't like it and is making excuses why he doesn't like it. |
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| drizzt81 |
| quote: | Originally posted by butterfly
anyone can put two records together. |
no offense, but have you tried? It is not as easy as it seems, at least I have the hardest time doing it! |
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| hadi burpee |
| quote: | Originally posted by drizzt81
no offense, but have you tried? It is not as easy as it seems, at least I have the hardest time doing it! |
she is comparing it to producing, and as far as djing is compared to producing, djing is 100x easier |
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| butterfly |
| quote: | Originally posted by hadi ******
she is comparing it to producing, and as far as djing is compared to producing, djing is 100x easier |
i think someone mentioned this earlier, but djing is more of a technical thing. you might be equally good at djing as doing lights (just an example) but that is very different than the music theory required to compose a soulful piece of music. OMG i sound like PP. shoot me. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by butterfly
i think someone mentioned this earlier, but djing is more of a technical thing. you might be equally good at djing as doing lights (just an example) but that is very different than the music theory required to compose a soulful piece of music. OMG i sound like PP. shoot me. |
Well again, this is coming from a musician, composer, producer (not full-time obviously...)
Matching beats isn't too hard, but a good DJ does a lot more than that. Especially the true techno DJs like Liebing or Cave - the kind of effects they put into it are incredible, so well-thought-out, and suddenly all those hard mindless beats start forming melodies and harmonies. "Matching" is more than just tempos, it's finding the feel of each track and creating a flow, and using effects to make it sound new and fresh every time.
And don't even get me started on the DJs that do their mixing on 3 or even 4 decks (I watched Gaetek mix on 3 turntables and a laptop, !!!)
It takes talent. |
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| Clyde77 |
| walker, your dad sucks :D |
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| drizzt81 |
| quote: | Originally posted by butterfly
i think someone mentioned this earlier, but djing is more of a technical thing. you might be equally good at djing as doing lights (just an example) but that is very different than the music theory required to compose a soulful piece of music. OMG i sound like PP. shoot me. |
in the end everything is technical. One could learn enought music theory to produce stuff, if one wanted to. The reason some people are better at it than others is talent and this applies to everything in life. |
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| butterfly |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Well again, this is coming from a musician, composer, producer (not full-time obviously...)
Matching beats isn't too hard, but a good DJ does a lot more than that. Especially the true techno DJs like Liebing or Cave - the kind of effects they put into it are incredible, so well-thought-out, and suddenly all those hard mindless beats start forming melodies and harmonies. "Matching" is more than just tempos, it's finding the feel of each track and creating a flow, and using effects to make it sound new and fresh every time.
And don't even get me started on the DJs that do their mixing on 3 or even 4 decks (I watched Gaetek mix on 3 turntables and a laptop, !!!)
It takes talent. |
i agree with what you are saying but only good djs do that. the thing is, everybody seems to think they are a dj and i think probably only like 10% or less can do what you are saying. |
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