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Does america hate electronica? (pg. 5)
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| hardstyle |
| Techno was born in Detroit |
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| TranceXposure |
| oh, btw, i'm happy with the current size of the american electronica scene. ahah...just the rite size, and room for any committed listeners. If it were to be mainstream the thing is, i'm not afraid of growth of the listeners, i'm afraid that the number of listeners that are not committed to what they're listening to. it's not a connection of emotional growth, or happiness from that one song you hear off the paulvD album. it would be more of an "i'm listening to this becasue it's cool in the states. everyone's doing it". There's mroe to the music. The state's think of it as a drug related scene. Honestly, they can't blame me, because i'm not on anything, nore alcohol, even though it is hard for people to realize that it is a drug. I would think that all the TA's are committed listeners. you don't have to listen 24/7 to be committted but i mean, comon' now, doing it because it's a fad is what america is about. that's not natural. This music is more than what words can explain. And it's more than having numbers prove it to be good. |
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| torontotrance |
| quote: | | Dance music is a totally american import. we invented disco, techno, and garage music |
NO NO NO NO
you stole it and claimed it as your own
disco was based on the work of a GERMAN GROUP called Kraftwerks. Disco was based on that then house formed....then techno formed from chicago house and what jean michel jarre was doing (he is french btw). Garage formed from house...but had some help with some other producers Francois K (french), Giorgio Moroder (Italian). So to say that you invented it all when it was all based on the electronic sounds of a german group and did I forget to mention that the first dj was english aka jimmy sommerville. You have just been owned, Americans had a decent part in music but so did people from a lot of other countries. If you don't believe me, look it up. |
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| TranceXposure |
| quote: | | [i][b]it's not a connection of emotional growth, or happiness from that one song you hear off the paulvD album. . |
i mean it is a connection of emotional growth, or happiness from that one song you hear off the paulvD album or whichever else |
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| torontotrance |
| Disco never died and the Europeans never adopted it. The americans took ideas from non americans...push the sound...then non americans took the sound and made their own take on it. So technically it was just full circle. |
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| Provitex |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardstyle
and how are you able to put words in my mouth by saying that if i did live in europe i wouldn't like it bc the trance is mainstream. eh, "
I never said if you would liuve in Europe then you wouldnt like trance. I just saying that is so stupid to say that if it would be Mainstream in America it wouldnt be as good as when its underground, |
listen... It's a matter of complicating the music with what WE, westerners, think as the approperiate image. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardstyle
Here the translation :)
Dance well vor 500 miljonen and 11,000 job
In the Dutch dancescene an amount of at least 500 miljonen euro per
year goes for.Thereby the sector is well for about 11,000 jobs.That becomes clear from a report of KPMG.
In the repport stands further that dance alsculturele stroming an
important place in the Netherlands innemt.KPMG did the research for media - and entertainmentbedrijft ID&T.It is for the first time that the phenomenon dance has been mapped |
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| torontotrance |
| people need to read up before they make these bastard claims..americans invented everything....so you going to say that you invented the automobile as well? |
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| TranceXposure |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardstyle
and how are you able to put words in my mouth by saying that if i did live in europe i wouldn't like it bc the trance is mainstream. eh, "
I never said if you would liuve in Europe then you wouldnt like trance. I just saying that is so stupid to say that if it would be Mainstream in America it wouldnt be as good as when its underground, |
I don't think it's stupid at all. I'm sorry that you find it appealing to have the whole US love electronica. That's just not what appeals me, and I'd rather it stay underground, and bet more people have the same intentions as me. First off, it is simple that the US does not find it appealing, and therefore it will not sell. And no moolah, then no publicity. it would not sound great in the states if the music were mainstream. it's not really the music that wouldn't sound good, it would moreover be the idea that it is mainstream although the US does not want it? i mean...to want it to be mainstream, and the reality that it will not makes sense right? |
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| torontotrance |
taking a line from pete tong
the underground scene in the united states is so healthy that if you tried to stop it now, you could'nt. |
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| TranceXposure |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardstyle
and how are you able to put words in my mouth by saying that if i did live in europe i wouldn't like it bc the trance is mainstream. eh, "
I never said if you would liuve in Europe then you wouldnt like trance. I just saying that is so stupid to say that if it would be Mainstream in America it wouldnt be as good as when its underground, |
I don't think it's stupid at all. I'm sorry that you find it appealing to have the whole US love electronica. That's just not what appeals me, and I'd rather it stay underground, and bet more people have the same intentions as me. First off, it is simple that the US does not find it appealing, and therefore it will not sell. And no moolah, then no publicity. I think the numbers are fine, and no numbers need to prove how good it sounds. I don't need it to be mainstream for it to be proved to me that "hey, trance is greattt!". I know it is. And the fact that I can go anywhere in the world and see the same faces is amazing. The scene is like that, where the people who listen are committed. I don't want some lameass people coming into the scene or a club not knowing what this music is. I.E this girl in atlanta just embarrassed the hell out of herself at ferry corsten's gig. she knows he she is, and her boyfriend probably felt like for bringing her. Need i say more to defend my position? |
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| torontotrance |
| But deejays like ferry see her as the future of music. You hook people like that on music, you gain a wider audience. The scene in any music will always have 2 parts the mainstream and the underground. |
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