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14,000 casualties in Iraq since Nov 30th
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| rizen |
| whoa! didnt know it was that many :( |
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| LiquidX |
| WoW Thats alot!!. Whats Iraq's total population? |
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| DigiNut |
That article is complete garbage. He doesn't identify any of his sources, except one Lt. Colonel that says 473 people died in battle. I can pull statistics out of my ass too and say that they came from "a Pentagon source."
Just more liberal leftist conspiracy theorizing... |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by LiquidX
WoW Thats alot!!. Whats Iraq's total population? |
not sure, but thats US casualties.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
That article is complete garbage. He doesn't identify any of his sources, except one Lt. Colonel that says 473 people died in battle. I can pull statistics out of my ass too and say that they came from "a Pentagon source."
Just more liberal leftist conspiracy theorizing... |
LOL good one. ZOMG! ONE OF THE MOST DECORATED VIETNAM VETERAN's IS A LYING COMMIE AND HAS A BS PENTAGON SOURCE! yet you are right, no real no source, kinda like saddam was a threat and had wmds, right? :haha: |
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| SpykeChyld |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
kinda like saddam was a threat and had wmds, right? :haha: |
You people never cease to amaze me:rolleyes: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
LOL good one. ZOMG! ONE OF THE MOST DECORATED VIETNAM VETERAN's IS A LYING COMMIE AND HAS A BS PENTAGON SOURCE! yet you are right, no real no source, kinda like saddam was a threat and had wmds, right? :haha: |
That sounds to me like a straw-man argument. Not only is that not what I said, but him being a Vietnam veteran does not make him an expert on what happened in Iraq.
He has no testable evidence or verifiable sources to support his claim of 14,000 deaths. Whether or not "I think a Vietnam Veteran would lie" is pretty much irrelevant.
Try again. |
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| Yoepus |
why go into argument fallice details when the facts aren't straight?
the article itself states:
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Lt. Col. Scott D. Ross of the U.S. military's Transportation Command told me that as of Dec. 23, his outfit had evacuated 3,255 battle-injured casualties and 18,717 non-battle injuries.
Of the battle casualties, 473 died and 3,255 were wounded by hostile fire.
Following are the major categories of the non-battle evacuations:
Orthopedic surgery 3,907 --- 4000 people broke bones, maybe playing football during all the breaks?
General surgery 1,995 --- 2000 had surgery of different sorts, doesn't tell us minor or not.
Internal medicine 1,291 --- I have no clue wtf this is
Psychiatric 1,167 --- 1000 people went crazy
Neurology 1,002 --- 1000 people's brain fried in the hot destert sand
Gynecological 491 ---- 500 people were 'gettin some' in Iraq
Sources say that most of the gynecological evacuations are pregnancy-related, although the exact figure cant be confirmed Pentagon pregnancy counts are kept closer to the vest than the number of nuke warheads in the U.S. arsenal.
Ross cautioned that his total of 21,972 evacuees could be higher than other reports because in some cases, the same service member may be counted more than once. |
Therefore since at highest only "473 died and 3,255 were wounded by hostile fire", you can count no more than 4000 casualties. Thats more than a power of three less than Mr. Hackworth's figure.
Oh and the source's bias is clearly anti-war both pre and post invasion. His hippiness is clear with his statement "Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and retired Gen. Tommy Franks should be required to report to a congressional committee convened to investigate both the invasion and the planning or lack of planning for the occupation of Iraq." |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by SpykeChyld
You people never cease to amaze me:rolleyes: |
you have something to share? did you find the wmds? oh please do tell
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Try again. |
more like, please read it again, here ill even quote myself and make it bold for you
| quote: | Originally posted by rizo
not sure, but thats US casualties.
LOL good one. ZOMG! ONE OF THE MOST DECORATED VIETNAM VETERAN's IS A LYING COMMIE AND HAS A BS PENTAGON SOURCE! yet you are right, no real no source, kinda like saddam was a threat and had wmds, right? :haha: |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
why go into argument fallice details when the facts aren't straight?
the article itself states:
Therefore since at highest only "473 died and 3,255 were wounded by hostile fire", you can count no more than 4000 casualties. Thats more than a power of three less than Mr. Hackworth's figure. |
yep that is from Lt. Col. Scott D. Ross' unit. we dont know about the other evacuation units, if any.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Yoepus Oh and the source's bias is clearly anti-war both pre and post invasion. His hippiness is clear with his statement "Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and retired Gen. Tommy Franks should be required to report to a congressional committee convened to investigate both the invasion and the planning ? or lack of planning ? for the occupation of Iraq." |
how is being against the war a hippie? i know of some consertavies and libertarians that were not in support of this war since the start. also damn that hippie Pat Buchanan for being anti-war :mad: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
more like, please read it again, here ill even quote myself and make it bold for you |
| quote: | | LOL good one. ZOMG! ONE OF THE MOST DECORATED VIETNAM VETERAN's IS A LYING COMMIE AND HAS A BS PENTAGON SOURCE! yet you are right, no real no source, kinda like saddam was a threat and had wmds, right? :haha: |
I don't see what you're attempting to prove by mentioning the WMDs or lack thereof in the same paragraph as the casualty count - the two issues are completely unrelated. Same with the words like "commie" and "BS pentagon source". The fact is, he has no verifiable source, so we can't trust his information.
By the way - quoting yourself? Yeck.
| quote: | | yep that is from Lt. Col. Scott D. Ross' unit. we dont know about the other evacuation units, if any. |
Exactly why we can't make any assumptions about the other evacuation units, if any. |
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| rizen |
| quote: | | Originally posted by DigiNut I don't see what you're attempting to prove by mentioning the WMDs or lack thereof in the same paragraph as the casualty count - the two issues are completely unrelated. Same with the words like "commie" and "BS pentagon source". The fact is, he has no verifiable source, so we can't trust his information. |
sarcasm dude, drop some e or something :p
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
By the way - quoting yourself? Yeck.
Exactly why we can't make any assumptions about the other evacuation units, if any. |
yep |
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
sarcasm dude, drop some e or something :p
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Seems as though you've dropped too many e's yourself... :wtf: |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef
Seems as though you've dropped too many e's yourself... :wtf: |
EVERYDAY* :cool:
*once in the summer 2002 :crazy: |
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