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Starting a set from scratch
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| borron |
On new year's eve i went to a techno party with some friends and after seeing an amazing performance by Claude Young (the guy scratched with his elbow and head) came a local dj - Jesus del Campo - with a nice, powerful sound.
After that was Marcus Schulz (sp?) a well-known international dj.
However, Marcus stopped del Campo's sound and started his set from scratch.
I have seen many dj's make that, but only a few can succeed in such a risky move. Marcus failed miserably.
Marcus started with a slow buildup, very slow, which killed the dancefloor. Many people got out. I was on E at the time and as you can imagine i didn't find that funny at all...
I think you can only stop the sound from the last guy if:
a) you're a local/global superstar and people love you
b) you're going to make a 1 minute buildup and then destroy everybody on the dancefloor with a massive track
Marcus wasn't a local star and he didn't use a massive track. Instead he did a 5 min slow buildup and then i left to sit a bit, returning only when he finished his set. I got angry at him for doing that .
What do you people think of this? Do you agree with me? Have you stopped the sound of the last guy before playing? |
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| basd |
I don't know who does the programming at that venue, but he / she deserves a good kick in the nuts.
Programming a progressive / trance / whatever he spins DJ after Claude Young and another DJ with a powerful style is just embarassing.
Ever heard of building a night? |
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| conk |
| Markus is a fabulous DJ and producer, I wouldn't be so quick to blame him. Perhaps he should've started in the warm-up or 2nd DJ spot, but the promoter figured that he was probably the most famous out of all 3 so he had him last. He didn't kill everyone on the floor because that wouldn't be being true to his own style, the most important thing to remember when DJing. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
But the fact is he wasn't the warm-up or 2nd spot Dj. If you're a good DJ you adapt to the party and not kill the dancefloor by doing something completely else.
The warning bells should go off when you see people leaving... |
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| DJTJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
But the fact is he wasn't the warm-up or 2nd spot Dj. If you're a good DJ you adapt to the party and not kill the dancefloor by doing something completely else.
The warning bells should go off when you see people leaving... |
But then again, if you play one particular style of music that doesn't fit in to the slot, then all you can do is play the records you have. You can't conjure up a completely different set of records out of thin air that will fit the atmosphere better. Perhaps that is what happened here, and Markus wasn't told that he would be following on from something as banging as that. |
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| basd |
That's what I was saying :) You can't blame the DJ fully for this..
Just kick the guy / girl in charge of the programming of the event in the nuts / whatever else :) |
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| Nemesis44 |
Agreed, that's not really the DJs fault, but what it does do is reinforce the things that were said in the thread about being a warm up DJ.
As a DJ that is one of your worst nightmares as it makes you seem really crap. Sounds like he was booked to play totally the wrong sort of crowd and night to be honest so a big kick in the nads to the one who arranged the night.
I have been in the same situation once when all I could do is search my record box for harder remixes of the usual stuff I play and then pitch it up as high as I can, not the ideal solution but it's better than getting grief from the promoter for not playing. Then afterwards it's time to talk reality with the person that organised it.
Cheers
Nem |
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| nrjizer |
| Yeah I'd say its the promoters fault... though honestly I know Markus could have transitioned better than just killing it and dropping a slow tune... hes got some harder tracks in his box, I know he's played Cass - Kenjin before, and he also played Mauro Picotto - New time new place @ Space. Not that I'm blaming him, but I'm sure he had something in his box which could have moved the flow over. Oh well, happens |
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| jesten |
It's hard to say who the blame should go to. The promoters should know that Markus is not going to be playing stomping tracks and should have booked opening DJs that would build up to Markus.
Also a good opening DJ would not play bigger tracks than the headliner. It makes him or her look stupid and it is disresectful IMO. |
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| nrjizer |
| quote: | Originally posted by jesten
It's hard to say who the blame should go to. The promoters should know that Markus is not going to be playing stomping tracks and should have booked opening DJs that would build up to Markus.
Also a good opening DJ would not play bigger tracks than the headliner. It makes him or her look stupid and it is disresectful IMO. |
Yes but IMO the night shouldn't just begin to pick up at 2am. I love Markus but his sound is much more chilled and deep, and if he's headlining any warmup DJ's would have to keep it pretty boring for 4 hours or they'd start to overpower Markus. |
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| DJ Lazy |
This is what I think happened here @ a fairly large event that AVB was headlining. The duo that played ahead of him threw down one hell of an amazing and high energy set. Honestly it was prolly one of the best sets I have heard live here in Calgary, and I have seen the big guys this year (PVD, AVB, Tiesto, Jules, Lashes, and Digweed). Anyways.. They drop there set, and the AVB comes on.. the sound STOPPED, then he started his set, it was a fairly normal set from AVB, maybe a couple more floorfillas that usual, but nothin out of the ordinary, and he built his nite up.. But he defineately killed the mood that I was in. And me and my mate actually walked out before AVB even finished his set. :( It was just a really bad way to setup such a huge event (huge for Calgary). Maybe the Promoters are just getting worse these days. :conf:
Cheers. |
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