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| DJMikeyP |
Hey guys,
A friend and I are thinking we'd want to try and live out in the euro area for a couple years, just for the fun and experience. We're thinking mostly somewhere like germany, but really anywhere thats not the USA would be fine (france, london, etc). We just want to live in a place thats more open minded about trance/dance, and build an experience we can remember for a lifetime.
Today is the first day we start doing research, trying to figure out how we can 'make it' out there. I'm obviously going to spam the out of euro labels with my original music, but does anyone know of any clubs or places I could possibly gig at? Is there a musician's atlas, only for europe? Any other helpful tips or advice? My friend is a struggling model, so if by chance anyone knew anything on that topic, that would be cool too.
Thanks for any help guys. Thread hi-jackers and flames need not apply heehee.
Mike |
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| monoxide |
you are very welcome. just remember smth:
-1. learn [or just begin learning] the language of the place you are going to stay; f.e. in France, you would be treated as a moron if you spoke english. [it's a matter of habit, but such are they]. some missunderstandings may happen here in Eastern Europe, cuz most of 35+ ppl doesn't speak English, but do have very good knowledge of Russian [btw, RUS and German lang. are very common in Europe].
-2. learn to deal with problems yourself. let me explain - we are aware that americans have a huge trust in LAW. for every missunderstanding, or insult or such they call lawyers, police etc. here- nobody cares! [i didn't want to say that the crime is legal, but eu ppl are way more independant that americans].
-3. remember that not every country welcomes and appreciates foreighners. comon ppl have jobs and they think that foreigners are just new adversaries [more common to Western europe, here, in eastern block, foreigners are highy appreciated].
-4. racism - however this topic is not very pleasurable to discuss, here, in Eastern block, is one of the most high percent of racists or homophobes. furthermore, how should i not mention in what point Lithuania leads in the world. SUICIDES. the highes percent in the world here!
-5. there are no such strict laws about sex or alcohol like in america. being topless in public for a woman is not a crime, and women are taken very strange if they get a sun tan, wearing a bra (or top, or whateva). you can buy any alcohol in any country if you have 18 (in some - 16).
-6. there are so many clubs in europe [even in lithuania], that if you spoke with the manager of some middle class club manager, and showed him some examples and dj abilities, maybe you'd get a try-out-night. the pay is much less than you would get in america, cuz europe is full of DJ's, you know ;) i do work in a prestigious club, so i wouldn't recomend you going to one at once. rumours between clubs spread like diseases and if you are too bad for a prestigious club, no other will take you, cuz the word will be spread.
-7. much much harder to your friend. as you should know, european market is FULL of models. i personally work as a model just for fun (as a hobby), but the competition is so great, that only those who have super high standarts [+ they are very different from those in america, called "hollywood"] get the contract. it's easier in eastern europe to get a deal, but the pay is much smaller. [for eg, 3 yrs ago, when i was a newbie without a contract, i had several shows on catwalk for 5€ an evening]. it's practically impossible to get a good contract in Milan, Paris, London or Berlin.
-8. enjoy the great variety of electronica music spectre in EU:D
-9. guides to clubs are all in the internet; search harder! |
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| Fundamental |
| Holland. You know it's the way to go. There would be plenty of opportunities to spam your music off, and your struggling model friend can get into a line of work that isn't legal in many other countries. :stongue: |
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| jp |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fundamental
Holland. You know it's the way to go. There would be plenty of opportunities to spam your music off, and your struggling model friend can get into a line of work that isn't legal in many other countries. :stongue: |
I couldn't have said it better :haha: |
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| igottaknow |
Incase you missed pulp fiction:
JULES
-- okay now, tell me about the hash
bars?
VINCENT
What so you want to know?
JULES
Well, hash is legal there, right?
VINCENT
Yeah, it's legal, but is ain't a
hundred percent legal. I mean you
can't walk into a restaurant, roll
a joint, and start puffin' away.
You're only supposed to smoke in
your home or certain designated
places.
JULES
Those are hash bars?
VINCENT
Yeah, it breaks down like this:
it's legal to buy it, it's legal to
own it and, if you're the
proprietor of a hash bar, it's
legal to sell it. It's legal to
carry it, which doesn't really
matter 'cause -- get a load of this
-- if the cops stop you, it's
illegal for this to search you.
Searching you is a right that the
cops in Amsterdam don't have.
JULES
That did it, man -- I'm in'
goin', that's all there is to it.
VINCENT
You'll dig it the most. But you
know what the funniest thing about
Europe is?
JULES
What?
VINCENT
It's the little differences. A
lotta the same we got here,
they got there, but there they're a
little different.
JULES
Examples?
VINCENT
Well, in Amsterdam, you can buy
beer in a movie theatre. And I
don't mean in a paper cup either.
They give you a glass of beer, like
in a bar. In Paris, you can buy
beer at MacDonald's. Also, you
know what they call a Quarter
Pounder with Cheese in Paris?
JULES
They don't call it a Quarter
Pounder with Cheese?
VINCENT
No, they got the metric system
there, they wouldn't know what the
a Quarter Pounder is.
JULES
What'd they call it?
VINCENT
Royale with Cheese.
JULES
(repeating)
Royale with Cheese. What'd they
call a Big Mac?
VINCENT
Big Mac's a Big Mac, but they call
it Le Big Mac.
JULES
What do they call a Whopper?
VINCENT
I dunno, I didn't go into a Burger
King. But you know what they put
on french fries in Holland instead
of ketchup?
JULES
What?
VINCENT
Mayonnaise.
JULES
Goddamn!
VINCENT
I seen 'em do it. And I don't mean
a little bit on the side of the
plate, they in' drown 'em in
it.
JULES
Uuccch! |
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| Switch |
hehe yep we've got strange habits :D
but seriously, if u want a place that's open minded to trance, you should definately go to holland. the place where all the big parties are, the most hot chicks, (almost) legal weed :D |
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| bass drive |
| if you spin trance, then North-West countries are better for you. In Central/Eastern Europe, people are more into prog, house and such. Also, in the northwest you don't need to learn the language, English is enough. |
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| Racer Eex |
| Is it just me, or did most of the bigname dj's get their carrears started in Europe? |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Racer Eex
Is it just me, or did most of the bigname dj's get their carrears started in Europe? |
When most of them are actually from Europe, it does make sense. :p |
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| .montecarlo. |
| it costs a fortune to live in london... |
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| DJMikeyP |
| Holland sounds kind of cool so far! You guys rule. |
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