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Real football vs American football (pg. 5)
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| TiestoFanMatt |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
You have to be joking right?
USA invented baseball, the national sport probably for the last 100 years or so. Now its not as much as its used to but that is because we have many sports that are popular, not only soccer like the rest of the world. No one watches soccer here because we are busy watching football, baseball, basketball, hockey, not to mention college sports, etc. This leaves less airtime for soccer which has less airtime than even golf. Hell even poker and iceskating get more airtime than soccer. |
Im not putting down the fact u invented any sports, im saying where ur country come as a whole against other competitions. Baseball is played between very few countries, im talking about something like the World Cup, as i mentioned USA during the world cup, no one cared! If you experienced as a nation coming together on one day to hope ur country wins the world cup, well lets just say that you are missing out on something very unique and can not be matched by any other sports competition.
The fact that football, or soccer gets very little airtime just backs up the point that football has little support in the USA and will never break into world domination, even though, the potential is there ( players like Adu) |
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I generally don't like "sport" where you play 20 seconds and have a 10 minutes pause. That' ing ridiculous.
Of course I prefer real football. |
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| blazed it |
american football is not a copy of rugby nor is it a sport. If you've played a real game of american football and then you call it a sport then i have nothing to say, but if you've never played and have only watched it on tv then please stfu.
soccer is cool, a bit slow but i watch it sometimes with my dad because he loves that stuff. if you really want to watch soccer in the US forget espn sportcenter and all that jazz just turn to the spanish channels on tv. they only have mexican soap operas and soccer on those channels.
personally i like american football better, but i have nothing against soccer it's just not my thing.
and dammit stop comparing american football to soccer, the games are so fundamentally different. |
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| hardstyle |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omegasox
Why does everyone always bring up the "Why do they call it football when they hardly use their feet" in every single American football thread.
Funny tho it's always the same person echoing the anti-American sentiments.
Why are we anti-Americans when we wanna find out why you call American football=football.Its just they use they hand and not they feet.
Some people said its becouse when the game starts and after the touchdown they kick the ball. Still , do they reallly use they feet in that sport?
And soccer is the short name of association football |
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| BadBadNeil |
Ok to end this discussion once and for all here is the reason american football is called football.
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Pre 1900
At the turn of the seventeenth century, English colonial settlers brought the game of soccer (more commonly known as football around the world) to the United States.
The game was introduced to colleges some 200 years after the game first came to the United States, and in 1867, the first set of rules for American football were drawn up at Princeton College.
The Princeton rules, as they were called, specified twenty-five players to a team, with the rules the same as football (soccer).
About the same time, Rutgers also formulated a set of rules, and Rutgers and Princeton met for a game on 6 November 1869 at New Brunswick. Rutgers' rules were a modified version of the London Association Football rules. The game was essentially the same as football (soccer), but the ball could be batted with the hand, but running with the ball and throwing it was not allowed.
The goals were the same width as football (soccer), 7.3 metres (24 feet) and the pitch measured 110 metres by 69 metres (360 feet by 225 feet).
The winner was the first team to score six goals. Rutgers won 6-4. The teams met again two weeks later, using Princeton's rules, with the first team to eight goals winning. Princeton's rules also allowed for a free kick to be given when a clean catch was made. Princeton won 8-0.
The game became popular in other colleges, especially Columbia and Yale. Harvard revived football in 1871 and they played what was known as the 'Boston Game'. That was again very similar to football (soccer), but the ball, which was at that time still round, could be picked up and players could run with it. By then, the game was beginning to resemble rugby.
In fact, rugby had a big influence on American football. Harvard played the McGill University Football Club of Montreal twice in 1874. McGill played rugby, and Harvard were interested in the game. They discussed the possibility of drawing up a new set of rules with Yale.
Princeton and Columbia were invited to the meeting and in 1876 the Intercollegiate Football Association was formed, with the rules being very similar to Rugby Union.
Walter Chauncey Camp
In 1880, Walter Chauncey Camp of Yale revised the game. The number of players were reduced from fifteen to eleven, and the scrummage was dropped in favour of the scrimmage.
The standard team line-up was put in place, seven linemen, a quarterback, two halfbacks and a fullback. Two years later Camp introduced the downs and yardage rules.
Originally it was 5 yards in three downs. As it became essential to know how far a player had moved up the field, parallel lines were drawn onto the pitch at five yard intervals. This is where the word 'gridiron' comes from.
The scoring system of points for touchdowns, field goals, 'points after' touchdowns, and safeties was introduced in 1883, and in 1888 Camp got the rules changed to allow tackling below the waist.
In 1894, representatives of the leading college teams met to outlaw certain dangerous mass plays, which involved groups of players putting opposing players out of the game. The playing time was also cut from ninety to seventy minutes.
After 1900
Despite changes in the rules, the game was still very rough and dangerous. In 1905 there were eighteen deaths in American football games throughout the United States. President Roosevelt called together representatives of Yale, Harvard and Princeton, and told them that the brutality within the sport had to stop.
In December 1905, more than sixty representatives from college teams met to try and solve the problems facing the game. Captain Pierce of West Point sat at the head of the meeting. The Intercollegiate College Athletic Association was formed. In 1910 it became the NCAA, the National Collegiate Athletic Association.
In 1906 major changes were made to the rules. Playing time was cut to sixty minutes, the forward pass was allowed, a neutral zone was made for the gap between the lines of scrimmage, and the number of yards to gain was increased to ten.
In 1910, the biggest problem, interlocked interference, was banned, along with pushing and pulling of the ball carrier. The game immediately became safer, but also more defensive, so in 1912, the number of downs was increased from three to four.
The length of the field was also reduced to 91.4 metres (100 feet) and end zones were added. The limit on the distance the ball could be thrown forward was scrapped, and the points awarded for a touchdown were increased from five to six. That was in 1912, and there have been few major changes since then.
The League game
In 1945, Michigan started using entire teams for offensive and defensive lines, but this was stopped in 1953, when only one player at a time was allowed to be substituted. In 1965, large scale substitutions were legalised, which is where the special teams are utilised.
The college football teams are watched by the professional teams, and eligible players are selected by the professional teams. This is called the draft. The weaker teams have first pick of the players.
The first recorded professional game in the United States was on 31 August, 1895, when teams from Jeanette and Latrobe met at Latrobe, Pennsylvania. However, it was not until 1920 when a professional league system was created.
Before then, the college game was the most popular, and players mainly turned professional to play the game further, as the financial incentives were not so significant.
The APFA (American Professional Football Association) was formed at Canton, and was presided over by Tom Thorpe. In 1921 it was restructured after a poor first year with Joseph Carr of Columbus, Ohio as president.
The first league season in 1921 had thirteen teams involved. The teams were: Akron Pros, Buffalo All-Americans, Canton Bulldogs, Chicago Cardinals, Cincinatti Celts, Cleveland Indians, Columbia Panhandles, Dayton Triangles, Detroit Heralds, Green Bay Packers, and Rock Island Independents.
In 1922, the APFA was renamed the NFL (National Football League). In 1933 the NFL was split into two leagues, the Eastern and Western Divisions, with the winners from each division meeting each other at the end of the season for the World Championship.
The first Championships was between the Chicago Bears and the New York Giants. The Bears won 23-21.
In 1946, another league was formed, the All-American Conference. At the end of 1949 the two leagues merged and for the next three seasons, they were known as American and National Conferences.
The two Conferences became known as the Eastern and Western Conferences in 1953. In 1960, another league was formed, the American Football League (AFL) with eight teams.
The NFL was extended to thirteen teams in 1960, and the two leagues each had two divisons/conferences. The winners of each division/conference met to decide the champions of the AFL and the NFL, but the two champions did not meet until...
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So in case you are lazy and dont want to read that. Football started with soccer in the 16th century. The game was brought to america and changed slightly to be more like rugby where forward laterals were allowed. The game was continually altered throughout the centuries till it is where it is today. So they kept the same old name.
Also everyone wonders why they use padding. In the early 1900's no padding was used. Many deaths were being caused in the sports due to the brutality of the american rules. Up to 18 deaths per year. They decided to add padding to lessen the death and injury rate.
Hopefully that solves something. |
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| TuanAnh213 |
all this "whats better soccer or american football" garbage is just an excuse say whats better, europe or america:rolleyes:
its been said a thousand times, nobody cares about soccer in america cuz people here just prefer higher scoring, faster pace games and thats what we're used to...soccer is the opposite of that...its called being in different "cultures"...America and Europe, two different cultures...soccer is popular in europe and elsewhere while it isn't in america...neither sport is "better" than the other |
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| tathi |
Soccer > Rugby League > Rugby Union > American Football
AFL (The test sport on earth)
my soccer coach often says "respect to football (rugby / AF ) players but they got it easy, try putting your shoes and socks on without using your hands" |
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| paranoik0 |
it's all about culture
europeans can't stand america's culture, and americans can't stand europeans culture
i always loved real football(soccer), it is the big game in portugal as in every european country, i find it a very complete game, not just physical, the way you can see technical details in the great players, the tactics and complex strategies the managers put into their teams.
sorry, but i can't get into american's sports at all. that includes american football and baseball. basketball is pretty cool though. |
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| hardstyle |
My dad try to force me to watch American football and baseball, then im saying," those bloody sports are boring, i rather watch some football thank you." and then hes like" eh football players doesnt run as much as the American football and baseball players."
Then im like ," Ehhh???? Bullish."
Since he moved america , all is he watching is baseball and american football. |
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| Shepless |
| quote: | | Football...American football is just a wimps version of Rugby and bores me |
Wrong....
Rugby is a contact sport, NFL (American Football) is a collision sport! Thats the best way to put it. If you have ever watched NFL, then you would realise what I mean. And the only reason they wear all that padding is because too many people were dying playing the sport.........
Are they wimps now? :p
Shep |
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| EvilTree |
^Dude, the tackles in rugby looks more rough than anything NFL.
And NFL will never have a stadium full of fans chanting for 90 minutes straight. |
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| TuanAnh213 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardstyle
Since he moved america , all is he watching is baseball and american football. |
well gee...welcome to america:rolleyes: |
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