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| PhloTron |
| quote: | Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
Winning the Hockey, in the olympics is nothing compared to winning the world cup. I was in Paris the day France won the World Cup in 98. Let's just say that we were home late due to poor planning! The celebrations, were emence!
Even when England won the Rugby world cup, the whole of England were rejoiced together...!!!
But hey, keep onto memories:) |
I agree it's not as big as the World Cup...not as many nations partake in the sport, nor did I directly compare it to the World Cup (ahem quote: "not the world cup but...) I stated the Nation did have a World Stage victory, that brought the country together. However, I don't see how you can even compare our 80's Hockey win to the Englands Rugby win last year. Now I really like rugby...and watched the world cup matches...Yes, It was a great "World Win"...but if anything, it's only similar in size to the Olympic hockey of that time...and hardly had any of the cold war feel of the day, where international sporting events, especially involving the USA v CCCP had big political pull as well. Rugby is played in far fewer nations than soccer (football), just like hockey and our WHOLE country rejoiced and came together when we won in 80. If anything, it is similar "size" sporting victory....however, I highly doubt that the Rugby victory had the unity impact on the country as a whole that this one game did 24 years ago.
Maybe before you go ranting about how much "better and bigger" some event is over another...maybe you should realize not only the scope of the event...but the fact that you were not even born when this took place. Obviously your views of event are extremely askew and well...do not subjectively exist as you were not there.
I will keep my memories...one's I was around to cherish.
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| TuanAnh213 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt
But hardly nobody, apart from a handful of countries actually take notice with ice hockey. In England it is like behind Football, Rugby, Cricket and tennis, and is probably on par with Bowles (now theres a ing boring sport, if u could call it that)
I just try and work out why don't America enjoy football, because the sport is popular with kids, the womens football team are one of the best in the world, and their team are actually not that bad, and if the sport grew then america could compete with the top ten nations for football, because the foundations are there. Its just none of ur nation cares, and you should do!
Winning the Hockey, in the olympics is nothing compared to winning the world cup. I was in Paris the day France won the World Cup in 98. Let's just say that we were home late due to poor planning! The celebrations, were emence!
Even when England won the Rugby world cup, the whole of England were rejoiced together...!!!
But hey, keep onto memories:) |
what you obviously don't understand about the 1980 hockey win against Russia was that it was during the hostage in situation in iran, the US economy was down the pants, Jimmy Carter was failing as president, basically the US was in a bad state of being, and something HAD to be done to lift the spirits of the country, what better way to do it then beat a seemingly unbeatable Russian ice hockey team at that time with a group of american amateurs who came out of NOWHERE to get that far...a world cup win by the US (if ever) would NEVER match the magnitude of happiness, patriotism and pride that 1980 hockey game gave to the US at the time...i mean they're making a movie called "The Miracle" based on that game...it was that important |
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by TuanAnh213
what you obviously don't understand about the 1980 hockey win against Russia was that it was during the hostage in situation in iran, the US economy was down the pants, Jimmy Carter was failing as president, basically the US was in a bad state of being, and something HAD to be done to lift the spirits of the country, what better way to do it then beat a seemingly unbeatable Russian ice hockey team at that time with a group of american amateurs who came out of NOWHERE to get that far...a world cup win by the US (if ever) would NEVER match the magnitude of happiness, patriotism and pride that 1980 hockey game gave to the US at the time...i mean they're making a movie called "The Miracle" based on that game...it was that important |
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| Xavier |
| quote: | http://www.foxsportsworld.com/named/FSW/Index/Home?ref=lycos
WEBSTER: Anfield inspires football passion in American kids
BY NICK WEBSTER
FOX Sports World
Jan. 26, 2004 2:33 p.m.
I've spent the best part of two decades coaching soccer in this country and the one thing that has never been in short supply is enthusiasm. Whether they be kids, men or women the players would always be excited to play. However, I've always felt that there is one vital ingredient missing from the game -- passion.
This weekend I invited my High School boy's team to my apartment to watch the FA Cup fourth round tie between Liverpool and Newcastle United. You should've seen their eyes widening as the surround sound immersed them, and my not-so-appreciative neighbors, in the noise and emotion of Anfield.
"Coach, what are the fans singing?", "Why does it mean so much?", "They're all crazy," were some of the comments about the fans as the match moved along.
When the contest entered injury time and Liverpool faithful in the Kop turned up the volume on 'You'll never walk alone' I could've sworn a couple of the kids looked misty-eyed as the crackling atmosphere seeped into them.
"Is this what you mean by passion?" one asked.
"The players looked as though they're be driven along by the crowd, feeding from their emotion," observed another.
This was nothing like going to the Lakers and having the announcer implore the audience to make some noise. This was real, spontaneous and passionate.
I explained that just as the crowd supports their team to the fullest extent, the players have an incredible desire to play as hard as possible, because deep within their souls is a love of the game that they've carried since they were kids. It's always been more than a game; it's a way of life.
The following day the boys played one of their local rivals on an onion patch of pitch with biased referees and a team intent on kicking them off the park.
Usually under these circumstances they'd fold quicker than a house of cards, but with the bench belting out a rousing edition of Liverpool's famous anthem, I noted a new resolve, a different emotion. They were up for the scrap and willing to sacrifice their bodies in a way they'd never previously done.
That's no big deal I can hear you muttering, kids get stuck into each other throughout the land every day. However, I coach at one of the most exclusive private high school's in the country. These kids drive to school in BMWs, Mercedes and Porches.
They've never had to really battle for anything and if they lose, it's no big deal, there's always a party at some fabulous mansion to go to.
I couldn't help but wonder if the FA Cup with its magic and history had lit a fire within these kids. As they came off the pitch after holding out for a gut-wrenching three-two win, I knew it had. They all spoke of a churning in their stomachs, the determination to leave it all out there and a new found feeling of love along with respect of their teammates.
Seniors were hugging spotty freshman, petty jealousies were put aside as 'we' had become a team united by a common cause. We're by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen.
The Kop certainly felt that victorious unity after taking care of the Magpies a day earlier. Once again, Gerard Houllier proved that he's a man who knows when to get a result.
After losing to Spurs and tying Wolves, I was fairly convinced that a defeat would finally bring his reign to an end, but you just can't write him off. He knows that value of the Cup. The old competition might have taken a bashing recently, but it's a tournament that still means plenty to the fans and the players, especially those out of contention for Premiership glory.
Hey, if it can inspire a bunch of Southern California kids, you know that it still has a quality that the Premier League will never have; History, magic, emotion and priceless passion.
Until then, get the beers in. |
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| Coreesan |
| I LOVE American football... but recently (a few years ago) I started getting into footy after a trip to London. Still kind of new to watching the game... but I attended the U.S. - Denmark match last weekend, and it was one of the most exciting sport events I have ever seen. Cant wait to go to WC 2006 :) |
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| crazysoccerboy |
ok ok ok
when it comes to real football you have to consider many things
*Real football:
it is classy played by some of the most atheletic people in the world, it is strict, which means not a lot of bull , anyone messes around with the ref is kicked out of the game. people pay respect to this game to highest level. you have to be in professional attire to play the game. 90 minutes non stop with 15 minutes in the middle for break. one goal could make one country stay up all night long celebrating. a loss could be terrible to one country where they can go crazy on the streets loosing their temper. English fans are the craziest in real football, because any team that have big fans behind have to make sure to satisfy their fans or they are in big trouble. Real football players are considered as heroes of the country if they preform well (I.E. David Beckham "england", Ronaldo "brazil", Zidane "France")
probably the most respected and most watched sport in the world.
*American Football:
people hitting them selfs up for a ball, requires a lot of weight lefting and a lot of muscles, could be tricky, and it could be a very long game if it did not end on the given time. very emotional sometimes(when it comes to college football), too many rules to follow. not a lot of people who come out side the states understand american football so they find it boring. it is very interesting when it comes to college level, because if ur college is playing you will love to see them win so that they can be seen on ESPN and be famous from there.
from both of them I like Real Football..requires a lot brain using
Favorite real football team : Manchester united
Favorite american football team: university of south carolina "Game Cock" |
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| Virus |
Like someone said, the supporter culture of Football isn't comparable to anything else. People live and die for their team. My country is only top 10-15 in the world but its still our most popular sport, eventhough we are one of the best nations in other sports (i.e. Ice hockey). The football fans in Europe are crazy, I know alot of people who treasures their team as the best thing in life, above wife, kids, money etc etc... In American sports some rich dude can buy a team, change their colors, name and send it across the country to another city. WTF? It seems like no one cares. Try that in football! A team from a smaller town in div 1( Second highest league) in Sweden tried to change the type of green and change the font on the club emblem without asking the supporters and there were death threats involved!
I can safely say that the emotions involved in football aren't as strong in any other sport.
And if you don't like to call it football, try "The Beautiful Game" =) |
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazysoccerboy
ok ok ok
when it comes to real football you have to consider many things
*Real football:
it is classy played by some of the most atheletic people in the world, it is strict, which means not a lot of bull , anyone messes around with the ref is kicked out of the game. people pay respect to this game to highest level. you have to be in professional attire to play the game. 90 minutes non stop with 15 minutes in the middle for break. one goal could make one country stay up all night long celebrating. a loss could be terrible to one country where they can go crazy on the streets loosing their temper. English fans are the craziest in real football, because any team that have big fans behind have to make sure to satisfy their fans or they are in big trouble. Real football players are considered as heroes of the country if they preform well (I.E. David Beckham "england", Ronaldo "brazil", Zidane "France")
probably the most respected and most watched sport in the world.
*American Football:
people hitting them selfs up for a ball, requires a lot of weight lefting and a lot of muscles, could be tricky, and it could be a very long game if it did not end on the given time. very emotional sometimes(when it comes to college football), too many rules to follow. not a lot of people who come out side the states understand american football so they find it boring. it is very interesting when it comes to college level, because if ur college is playing you will love to see them win so that they can be seen on ESPN and be famous from there.
from both of them I like Real Football..requires a lot brain using
Favorite real football team : Manchester united
Favorite american football team: university of south carolina "Game Cock" |
very well said!
judging from your nick i was certain you were goin to bash American football and uphold REAL soccer, but you presented both sides of the argument, which i find readily admiral
Thank you for your insightful comment
now to the real reason for this reply.... WHY GAMECOCKS? !!!
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| crazysoccerboy |
well I attended the university of south carolina and got my bachelor degree from there...ever since I have not missed on single college football or college basketball for the game cocks...
I love this team, I mean they had their ups and downs, but when they are at the best form, it is just awesome to watch. I think we have the best fans in the country where no matter what, either they suck or they are good the stadium is always sold out...
GOOO COCKS :D |
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazysoccerboy
well I attended the university of south carolina and got my bachelor degree from there...ever since I have not missed on single college football or college basketball for the game cocks...
I love this team, I mean they had their ups and downs, but when they are at the best form, it is just awesome to watch. I think we have the best fans in the country where no matter what, either they suck or they are good the stadium is always sold out...
GOOO COCKS :D |
Thats awesome, one of my good friends goes to U of South Carolina as well, I was lucky enough to visit him last year during a football game. The dedication of alumni and students to fiercely show off their school spirit is amazing.
Plus all the tailgating and parties afterward were great too! :D |
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| crazysoccerboy |
I never seen any fans that loyal to their team...
also by far it is the best thing ever hapened to Columbia (the capital of south carolina) People who live there, do not have anything else to do except to Watch the game cocks :) |
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| LiquidX |
| Footboll aka Futbol in Spanish. I love it all the way. It is the most watched sport in the world, with probably the richest affiliation ( FIFA ) I could be wrong. Yes, every country in the world knows it as Football, ( only US calls it soccer, and Canada is just following its name ).. but w/e. American Football is just bully's running and jumping on each other.. not my stuff. |
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