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Above & Beyond- no one on earth (gabriel and dresden rmx) (pg. 8)
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Miss Lizzie
I tried looking on my slsk for it and couldn't find it
conk
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Originally posted by davedresden
how the can you comment on something you have not heard?

i think i'm going to stop using this board. the opinions expressed on it seem to commonly arrive from bitter people who have no idea what they're talking about. i have much better things to do with my time.

thank you and good night.

- dave


Nice work guys. I guess you can't find the line between defending your opinion and FORCEFULLY IMPRESSING it on others. Dave is absolutely right, its like every time a thread is made on a new tune that comes from well known producers it becomes a in flame war. Grow up.
CortexBomb
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Originally posted by fathomless1 Make your own opinions, have your own tastes, dont care what everyone else thinks, and enjoy the music you like.(not particularly aimed at you, but everyone)


I agree with you on the listening before having an opinion, but I think it's also the case that people here can be *too* thin-skinned at times.

Some people just don't like a given style, and that's their perspective too.

I wonder at times why all the prog ,purists' haven't long since left this site in disgust, but I digress.
fathomless1
I hate these flame wars but I ned to make this comment. Superfarstucker said that this song had basically ty lyrics. I disagree because all these trnce songs have very similar lyics and they are not that great. I believe this track is allright at best, not their best remix but I like it nonetheless. Songs in any genre these days are not lyrically dense. Case in point, a top track these days is Kelis- milshake, or Ying Yang twins- salt shaker. Both of these songs lryically are beyond ....but people love the beat and just cling to it.

The only point I am making in my ramblings is that you should have an opinion on what YOU like and not get on the hate bandwagon. I give G&D a lot of props because they are inovators. They have put out sooooooo many remixes and original tracks in so short of a time it is amazing. Some are excelent, some are okay, who else is pumping out music like them? I dont know anyone else. That is why I respect them. Also, they are both still down to earth nice guys that realize where they came from and still have time for their fans and that is respectable. enough babling.

peace,
matt
CortexBomb
Point definitely made on the average lyrical depth in dance songs, what are people expecting? Greek philosophy?

I also have major respect for G&D, a good 1/3 of their remixes are fantastic, which is more than I can say for most producers!

I'll be interested to see 3 or so years down the road when everyone is slagging Luke Chable for putting out another 'cookie cutter' remix...it seems no one is allowed to have major, long term success without being attacked at some point...a shame people can't just enjoy what they like and let others do the same.
JasK
I am sure everyone knows whose posts have nothing good coming out from it except flames, critism, bitterness and nothing constructive.
Some of them doesn't produce nor dj and likes to talk big. Hence deserve 0 respect and their posts and replies are just meant to be smiled with a shake of our head and proceed to a constructive post.
DeviantxPete
Well, they could've done something other than "down through the dark trees".

"Trees" just don't fit the voice at all. Just saying they could've used a better word (or phrase) to fit the voice more appropriately.
fathomless1
Dont analyze the lyrics and say the track sucks because they could of useda different word or phrase. Just about none of these trance tracks has Shakespearian type poetry lyrics. They are are realistically kind of cheesy and similar. I understand that, like them, and dont analyze there lyrical consistency. I just know the beat, the voice, and the production sound good.

word.
Frase
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Originally posted by DeviantxPete
Well, they could've done something other than "down through the dark trees".

"Trees" just don't fit the voice at all. Just saying they could've used a better word (or phrase) to fit the voice more appropriately.


there's always one :rolleyes:
SuperFarStucker
quote:
Originally posted by fathomless1
I hate these flame wars but I ned to make this comment. Superfarstucker said that this song had basically ty lyrics. I disagree because all these trnce songs have very similar lyics and they are not that great. I believe this track is allright at best, not their best remix but I like it nonetheless. Songs in any genre these days are not lyrically dense. Case in point, a top track these days is Kelis- milshake, or Ying Yang twins- salt shaker. Both of these songs lryically are beyond ....but people love the beat and just cling to it.

The only point I am making in my ramblings is that you should have an opinion on what YOU like and not get on the hate bandwagon. I give G&D a lot of props because they are inovators. They have put out sooooooo many remixes and original tracks in so short of a time it is amazing. Some are excelent, some are okay, who else is pumping out music like them? I dont know anyone else. That is why I respect them. Also, they are both still down to earth nice guys that realize where they came from and still have time for their fans and that is respectable. enough babling.

peace,
matt
The key difference between Kelis - milkshake and "no one on earth" being that one attempts to come off as serious and the other takes on a more free-wheeling aesthetic. In other words, the lyrical depth of milkshake fits the track itself and no one on earth's does not. Good lyrics don't have to be "greek philosphy" they simply need possess some dynamics and character. Radiohead, Tool, Pink Floyd, U2, Nirvana, Led Zeppelin...

Dance tracks like freeland's "supernatural thing" or Jam & Spoon's "Stella" (to name very few) work with their lyrics instead of trying to act like they are some sort of grandoise testament to the will of desire. If you fail to see the difference.... lets just say "DJ Sammy" heaven is up your alley...

fathomless1
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originally posted by SuperFarStucker

The key difference between Kelis - milkshake and "no one on earth" being that one attempts to come off as serious and the other takes on a more free-wheeling aesthetic. In other words, the lyrical depth of milkshake fits the track itself and no one on earth's does not. Good lyrics don't have to be "greek philosphy" they simply need possess some dynamics and character. Radiohead, Tool, Pink Floyd, U2, Nirvana, Led Zeppelin...

Dance tracks like freeland's "supernatural thing" or Jam & Spoon's "Stella" (to name very few) work with their lyrics instead of trying to act like they are some sort of grandoise testament to the will of desire. If you fail to see the difference.... lets just say "DJ Sammy" heaven is up your alley...


What I find most funny about you comment is your relation of my lyrical content knowledge to the cut down of me liking cheese music. You point out famous artists that put together classic songs...
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simply need possess some dynamics and character. Radiohead, Tool, Pink Floyd, U2, Nirvana, Led Zeppelin...

And then you say if i fail to see the difference in the Above and Beyond tracks lyrics compared to that of those famous tunes than Heaven is up my alley. It is funny because Heaven is a Bryan Adams original that was a top 40 classic that possesed that dynamics and character you were talking about. Later it was remade by that cheese producer DJ Sammy, but this discussion was about my knowing of quality lyrics. Thanks for making yourself look foolish by trying to cut me down with a track that contadicts the point you were trying to make in the first place. Son, you got owned
refuge.01^
very weak effort by the duo..
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