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Christian Dance Music (pg. 8)
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| pooley |
| I get really annoyed when chistians search in everything something that has to do with Jesus or almighty God or Allah or whatever ... |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Digital Aura
Its one thing to know some verses ...its another to know the author. If you know the author (you must believe that God inspired each book, as He claims) then your "interpretation" (as you call it) will obviously be different.
For example, what you have cited in the book of John does not depict a loveless merciless Christ. God gave us a free will. All Christians should respect and love each other regardless of how we each choose to live (homosexuals, atheists, etc). Thats our free will. But Im glad that He gave us the bible so that we can see where our free will goes against what He originally planned for our lives.
God cannot accept sin ... how could He? He is pure and untainted. He is clear though, that SIN is what he hates....not sinners.
In Matthew 11:20-24 once again he laments over the towns refusal to realize their wickedness...a town where He performed miracles and preached and was refused...
These verses simply show Him reproaching them about the final judgement. Final Judgement is the day we all stand before God to be counted as sinners or those who have accepted that Christ has paid for our sins through his death and resurrection. By believing...on that day we will be saved from eternal seperation from God.
You will NEVER find Christ saying that he HATES any person!!
Refutation? Im not trying to pick an argument or attack anyone here. In fact...we've wandered quite far off the MUSIC DISCUSSION path...PM me if you like to talk about this further! |
The only reason I'm taking this up with you is because of your 'anti-Christ religions are what is wrong with the world' comment. I'm sure the Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Secular Humanists and so forth really appreciated you telling them that!
As for the bible, do you not deny that it condones mass killing (Noah's ark, the story of the toddlers and the bald man, god ordering the Israelites to commit mass murder). As for miracles, all I'll say is that it's funny that we no longer see them being performed today. I wonder why. :thepirate And yes, I'm well aware of what the judgement is, but I've yet to see any credible evidence that it will actually take place. Indeed, there isn't any evidence for the existence of the Christian god either. If you feel you have any, I'm sure that there are many people around who would really love to hear it.
I'll concede on the Christ point, but I think it's moot when you consider the fact that god clearly does hate people. If you like, I'll happily dig up some verses to support that position as well, although this time they will be far more plentiful.
And yes, we have gone off topic. So, err, what's Jesus spinning tonight? :p
| quote: | Originally posted by pooley
I get really annoyed when chistians search in everything something that has to do with Jesus or almighty God or Allah or whatever ... |
Err, Allah is the Islamic deity. |
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| pooley |
| I know, I didn't want to come out as a christian hater :) |
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| Digital Aura |
This has become pointless arctic!
If youd like actual answers then you can come visit us at
CYBERWISDOM
There's plenty of Christians that'd be happy to answer your questions. Or PM me! |
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| pooley |
See, he's preaching :)
damn ... |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Digital Aura
This has become pointless arctic!
If youd like actual answers then you can come visit us at
CYBERWISDOM
There's plenty of Christians that'd be happy to answer your questions. Or PM me! |
My only question was what Jesus would be spinning tonight. So, if Jesus resides on that site, i'm so there. :p
But yeah, this topic bas been done to death. There have been a million religion threads in the political forum, no sense going over it time and time again, especially in music discussion.
/me heads to bed |
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| pooley |
Night night.
God bless you
/me puts a lil cross on your forehead
AMEN ! |
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| chris_norris |
| Im not religious, but I dont see why people have a problem with him labelling his music as 'christian'. In what way does this directly offend or affect you and why do you hate it so much? I might not agree with what he says, but if he wants to infer some sort of christian interpretation of the music thats fine - everyone has a different way of enjoying things and interpreting experiences, if it isnt hurting anyone whats the problem? |
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| torontotrance |
| I'm a Christian yet have no time for Christian Dance Music. Apart from the worldwide message tribe, dance music in Christian Circles has been dull and boring. Christian music is not the force that it used to be, I mean I come from the newsboys, dc talk and MWS era of music and nothing will top that. Those were true concerts back then...hehehehehe. Seriously here, if the guy wants to label his music Christian and he is Christian, then I have no problem with it. I don't think he is hitting you over the head saying YOU MUST LISTEN TO THIS OR YOU WILL BURN IN HELL. If he wants to point people to his music, then let him. Afterall, everyone decides what belief system they want to follow and only they can decide, not others. I encourage most positive music, no matter the religion because this world is too violent, too corrupt and a positive message I rather hear than the faceless stuff that is released. |
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| Stassi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Digital Aura
..it CAN be.
Why couldnt it be?
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This music was NOT made to praise god.
Perhaps it was made for people to take lots of drugs and dance around like bunnies on crack? Or maybe its made to touch people? Or its even possible its made so premarital sex could be better?
I dont in know, but I'll tell you one thing.
IT WASNT MADE AS AN EXTENSION OF THE BIBLE IN ANY WAY AND WASN'T MADE TO PRAISE GOD.
when a song might have vocals that go something like "your my angel" it doesn't mean it literally, it is a metaphor, chump. |
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| Keown |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
I'm a Christian yet have no time for Christian Dance Music. Apart from the worldwide message tribe, dance music in Christian Circles has been dull and boring. Christian music is not the force that it used to be, I mean I come from the newsboys, dc talk and MWS era of music and nothing will top that. Those were true concerts back then...hehehehehe. Seriously here, if the guy wants to label his music Christian and he is Christian, then I have no problem with it. I don't think he is hitting you over the head saying YOU MUST LISTEN TO THIS OR YOU WILL BURN IN HELL. If he wants to point people to his music, then let him. Afterall, everyone decides what belief system they want to follow and only they can decide, not others. I encourage most positive music, no matter the religion because this world is too violent, too corrupt and a positive message I rather hear than the faceless stuff that is released. |
I am a Christian and this would be exactly my viewpoint on Christian Dance music, although I have tgo disagree with you about Christian Music not bring the force it used to be, but thats just my opinion hehe:) |
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| torontotrance |
| I come from an old time in Christian Music, when they had 3 big bands and those big bands tore apart concerts. DC TALK - ACC 1999....Newsboys - Queensway 1996 then 1997, DC TALK, MWS, - Skydome 1995. What times, those were the days :). All before I was legal clubbing age heh. |
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