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2012 The END Date (pg. 2)
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| whiskers |
black holes don't suck unless you're in the even horizon, in which case every single atom in your body is pulled apart.
but the apocalypse isn't supposed to happen until 2015, or so i've heard.
btw, i dreamt of the apocalypse tonight. it wasn't that scary - death was a pleasant thing. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by whiskers
black holes don't suck unless you're in the even horizon, in which case every single atom in your body is pulled apart. |
Anyone else feel like pasta? |
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| u4ea:[soulstar] |
Probably means the end of a cycle, not the world. I've read and see claims of Nibiru (12th planet) coming near Earth. I haven't read that it happened at all when it was supposed to (last year, summer) as far as being noticeable from surveillance.
Take the interpretation with many grains of salt. |
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| NinetyNinety |
| quote: | Originally posted by nrjizer
I'm very skeptical that the ancient Mayans, who have left us absolutely zero archeological evidence of any technology greater than spears and stonework, could have obtained such a detailed and accurate analysis of our galaxy and its workings that has, apparantly, been able to elude us despite our technology and understanding of physics and astronomy that is far far far far more advanced than theirs.
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When I see some hard evidence for this astronomy from a credible source then I'll begin to beleive it. |
Okay, I'm mexican and I know more on this subject than you do, and I guess that your opinion is respectable, but you need to acquire a certain level of general culture in order to post something like this. First get informed. Mayans left us more valuable astronomical, mathematical, cientifical and architectural information, evidence and discoveries that any other ancient culture after only maybe the egiptians and greeks.
They did not only leave us "archeological evidence of any technology greater than spears and stonework". They discovered the perfect circle, developed a vigesimal numerical system, and they were the precursors of the utilization of zero in any system. They got to be the largest american culture of all times, including cities from México to practically Chile and Argentina. They created various perfect calendars using their astronomical knowledge (lunar, equinoccial, solar, and one calendar using Venus as its basis). This calendars can be found in diverse museums all around the world; you just need to visit this places more often. They were orfebres, artisans, athletes, etc. Also, they built perfect pyramids with chambers with little holes that when every specific number of days, hours, minutes and seconds came, projected a beautiful image to represent a new era. Go to Palenque, Chechen-Itzá, Tukúm, etc. to get an idea of what I see, or simply open a history book. There are so many other things, but I think that I already have made my point clear.
Please don't consider this as flaming, but as informing to make things clear, ok? ;) |
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| EriK_V |
| quote: | Originally posted by NinetyNinety
Okay, I'm mexican and I know more on this subject than you do, and I guess that your opinion is respectable, but you need to acquire a certain level of general culture in order to post something like this. First get informed. Mayans left us more valuable astronomical, mathematical, cientifical and architectural that any other ancient culture after the egiptians.
They did not only leave us "archeological evidence of any technology greater than spears and stonework". They discovered the perfect circle, developed a vigesimal numerical system, and they were the precursors of the utilization of zero in any system. They got to be the largest american culture of all times, including cities from México to practically Chile and Argentina. They created various perfect calendars using their astronomical knowledge (lunar, equinoccial, solar, and one calendar using Venus as its basis). This calendars can be found in diverse museums all around the world; you just need to visit this places more often. They were orfebres, artisans, athletes, etc. Also, they built perfect pyramids with chambers with little holes that when every specific number of days, hours, minutes and seconds came, projected a beautiful image to represent a new era. Go to Palenque, Chechen-Itzá, Tukúm, etc. to get an idea of what I see, or simply open a history book. There are so many other things, but I think that I already have made my point clear.
Please don't consider this as flaming, but as informing to make things clear, ok? ;) |
que viva el mexicano |
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| nrjizer |
| quote: | Originally posted by NinetyNinety
Okay, I'm mexican and I know more on this subject than you do, and I guess that your opinion is respectable, but you need to acquire a certain level of general culture in order to post something like this. First get informed. Mayans left us more valuable astronomical, mathematical, cientifical and architectural information, evidence and discoveries that any other ancient culture after only maybe the egiptians and greeks.
They did not only leave us "archeological evidence of any technology greater than spears and stonework". They discovered the perfect circle, developed a vigesimal numerical system, and they were the precursors of the utilization of zero in any system. They got to be the largest american culture of all times, including cities from México to practically Chile and Argentina. They created various perfect calendars using their astronomical knowledge (lunar, equinoccial, solar, and one calendar using Venus as its basis). This calendars can be found in diverse museums all around the world; you just need to visit this places more often. They were orfebres, artisans, athletes, etc. Also, they built perfect pyramids with chambers with little holes that when every specific number of days, hours, minutes and seconds came, projected a beautiful image to represent a new era. Go to Palenque, Chechen-Itzá, Tukúm, etc. to get an idea of what I see, or simply open a history book. There are so many other things, but I think that I already have made my point clear.
Please don't consider this as flaming, but as informing to make things clear, ok? ;) |
Well that was a quick generalization. I'm aware they've made some serious advances for their period. But there no evidence of telescopes, or advanced knowledge of physics, mathematics, or astronomy that you'd need to accurately predict such an event with detail. I've found no credible evidence that supports their 2012 story is anything more than part of their mythology.
These crackjob conspiracy sites can't seem the make up their minds. First it was 1975, when they were convinced Jesus would return because the earth would have been exactly 6000 years old (according to some crazy theory). Then it was Y2K. God knows how many of those nuts were convinced the world was ending, or aliens were coming home, or whatever. Then for some reason, it was last August when Planet X was going to swing around and kill us all. Guess what? Nothing happened. And I doubt anything will in 2012, 2015, whatever. |
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| NinetyNinety |
| Don't worry, I know that this 2012 theory won't be true because I belong to the Roman Catholic Church, and they were polytheists, so not everything they said was true. Ohh, and my post was only referring to your generalization. ;) |
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| Global DJ 2k |
| quote: | Originally posted by EriK_V
que viva el mexicano |
right on,EriK ~
Viva el mexicano~ |
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| Global DJ 2k |
I think it might be true actully in some kind of way. . . The Aztects werent wrong when they predicted things. . . .
Well... we'll have to wait until 2012 to see, eh? |
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| nrjizer |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Global DJ 2k The Aztects werent wrong when they predicted things |
Like what? |
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| u4ea:[soulstar] |
I just remembered I watched this show on EArth's magnetic pole is currently reversing itself at great speed. it due for a flip when north turns south and south turns north. this is due to the flow of the liquid core, which is the main reason behind the magnetic poles' position and plate techtonic shifts.
so the theory is when it reaches critical polar reversal, the is going to hit fans in laymen terms. maybe this is related to 2012.
those doomsayers won't have to worry about Nibiru flying into Earth. the polar shift should be able to cause major mayhem, geophysically. |
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| nrjizer |
| quote: | Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar]
I just remembered I watched this show on EArth's magnetic pole is currently reversing itself at great speed. it due for a flip when north turns south and south turns north. this is due to the flow of the liquid core, which is the main reason behind the magnetic poles' position and plate techtonic shifts.
so the theory is when it reaches critical polar reversal, the is going to hit fans in laymen terms. maybe this is related to 2012.
those doomsayers won't have to worry about Nibiru flying into Earth. the polar shift should be able to cause major mayhem, geophysically. |
Yes I know about the pole shifts... but such an event doesn't just *BOOM* happen. The earliest I've heard about that was something like 2070, and that was also on a nutcase website. Geology moves very slowly, and there will probably be very obvious signs that something like that is approaching soon long before we see it.
Something you have to keep in mind about all these natural disasters... meteors, pole shifts, supervolcanoes, global warming/cooling, tsunamis, trapped methane under the ocean floor (which when released will cause runaway global warming and possibly ignite large portions of the earth), etc... we've only had a decent knowledge of these things for the past 100 years or so. And thats being generous. Most of these things we've only had a good understanding off for maybe 30-50 years. Every time we find something new that can do us in, it always seems like they begin predicting its bound to happen at any moment now. Just because we observe a new trend doesn't mean that we can predict it to an accurate degree. The 100 years or so we could have been able to observe these things is pretty much a geological nanosecond.
Btw I've noticed trends in TV programs (as you claimed to have heard about the pole shifts - I'd like to know just what program it was on), they seem to love to grab onto these devistating natural desasters and overhype them, flaunting them as if they were going to happen tomorrow. I've seen the history channel alone do it with super volcanoes, mega tsunamis, meteors, and bible codes. The only program/network I'd trust for factual scientific data is PBS (Nova in particular), maybe National Geographic (tho they're mostly about animals, cultures, etc). I just find it a very extreme coincidence that in 130,000 years of homo sapiens, and about 10,000-12,000 years of archeologically recorded civilizations, that these devistating natural disasters are going to occur within the immediate time frame of when we discover they even exist. Not that I'm so naive as to beleive they will never happen, but I very highly doubt we'd see anything within our lifetimes. Or our childrens childrens childrens childrens lifetimes. If half these nutjobs were right then we'd have been wiped out of existance 20 times by now. |
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