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australian soccer (pg. 2)
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| jizza |
| quote: | Originally posted by bassaholix
FIFA rules state sumwhere that you MUST play for your country, allowing that you don't have a broken lkeg or something, if you fail to do so then you will be penalized!
If Viduka doesn't wanna play for australia or this goes to any other player anywhere in the world.. you can easily change nationality... then why don't they do that...
This little rant goes to all the ppl as well that have I LOVE NY tshirts, or AMERICAN FLAGS on their cars or watever, its ok to love your country but ive overheard ppl saying that Aust. is , yet they line up @ Centrelinkg... if you love it that much (your SO CALLED BEST COUNTRY) why don't you pack ur Go-Lo that you bought from our taxes n get the hell out?
SOck-R australia is under FIFA meaning that they must do what they are told.. even though everyone that is interviewed on Aust. Soccer TV has told them that they need more input of fresh talent from Europe and South America.
Here''s something interesting, have you realised that all the players playing for teams here in australia, most of them ARE NOT AUSTRALIAN?
Meaning that most australians can't play soccer, sorry to say but im not been racist or anything.
Why do you think Asia went well in the world cup? Cause they had SOuth American coaches... they had an input of fresh talent that wasn't from Asia, meaning that they had skills n experience bestowed upon them.
If Aust. played Korea or Japan right now, even at a friendly level, who do you think is going to win?
EXACTLY!!!
LOL sorry for the rants but they just built up i guess... |
holy moly... i know somewhere in there you meant well :confused:
does anybody else disagree with this notion that you are "obliged" to represent your nation? and does FIFA seriously enforce this rule where you "have" to play for your country?
kinda compromises the spirit of the game if you ask me. |
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| tubby |
the timing of this game in general wasn't bad, it was a week scheduled for international friendlies by fifa. soccer australia has complained in the past about young players of mixed descent being pressured by clubs to choose a european nation rather than aus. with SA having their heads up their bums like this, where would your loyalties lie? not with the country that would rather screw their players over to make examples of them.
At least the next friendly is a decent bit of organising, against south africa in london. a lot better than a midweek 12 hour flight to joburg.
as for australian players not being australians, something like 1/3 of the people in this coutnry weren't born here, and how many more are 1st generation australians? doesn't mean they are any less australian than anyone else.
Fifa doesn't insist that players are banned from playing for the club if they don't play for their country, they simple enforce the law if the national body requests it.
on the coaching side, farina doesn't have the talent there, but australia still screwed up with venables. |
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| Paulie |
You will find with Australias soccer team now, 99.9% of the players were born here. That wasnt the case 30 years ago, but as generations have passed, most of us are now 3rd generations. Sure I might be greek, have a greek name, greek culture etc etc etc. When you ask me what nationality i am, I am Australia, so thats not an issue.
The scheduling of the game wasnt bad, but the placement of the game was horrendous. South America when our whole squad is primarily based in EUROPE. RIdiculous is the only word to describe it. |
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| eRRaTiK |
| they should have asked Paulie to sub ;) |
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| bassaholix |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paulie
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ps if ther werent australian they wouldnt be allowed to play for australia you goose. Just cause your last name aint smith dont mean your not Australian you ignorant . |
LMFAO.. nut job... i know of a Brazilian that played for an asian team, during the world cup...
Btw did you call me an ignorant fck_u_2?
& if you don't get that.. then who is the ignorant one? :P
Lets not fight shall we.. i was making point :P |
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| Mangler |
I saw on Sky news that Scotland were looking at bringing in some foreign players to their national team.. whatever that means? .. do they rbing them in & naturalise them or something? .... & after the thumping they received at the hands of Wales, they need to do something. maybe McViduka??
anyway, point of the whole Venezuala thing is, the location they forced them to PLay at was ridiculous!!! soccer Australia have won very few friends. |
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| Xavier |
First and foremost have the friendlies in Europe, and all would be well.
Though I understand, trying to manage and making a squad when the players you would like to play are unavailable. I'm very happy in Harry Kewell's case for him its Club before country. :D I dont give a if he plays for Australia or not.
Thats ed if SA wants FIFA to suspend players for not turning up to internationals! I'd never play for Australia again if they tried suspending me from playing with my club. SA had the nerve to poke in the business of Kewell's transfer from Leeds to the Redmen.
And when we get to the final 2 legs to qualify for the World Cup finals, never count your chickens before they've been hatched even if we win the first leg 1 nil or 9 nil. I remember all the idiots suddenly talking about football, thought the job was already done at the MCG against Uruguay. And hence what Paulie said Farina! cause he thought he could get away with the Green and Gold sitting back at Montevideo.
The biggest mistake this country ever made was not taking Football seriously from the beginning till present. We put all the time in other sports, and all it got was a bunch of plastic trophies and plastic medals.
If the is country wants to qualify for the world cup in 2004 and in the future then it must have the passion and commitment, singing for 90 minutes, not just turning up and watching and ffs sake actually bringing at least 5000 or more real devoted fans to South America. Why werent there any Australians at the stadium in Montevideo back Nov 01? Just shows how loyal we Aussies are. Forget about all the other sports which are inferior, and spend the time and energy the sport that really matters football.
Just my 2 cents. |
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| Romp |
guys you realise we are going to have to play in South America to qualify for the next world cup right?
So excuse Frank Farina for having the stupidity to organise a game in South America against a team we might actually be playing to qualify! Considering how well we did playing in Uruguay we obviously dont need to bother about learning how to play in South America against South Americans?
:rolleyes:
90% of the friendlies are in Europe to be honest and even then there are a lot of players who pull out with minor injuries |
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| tubby |
i think the biggest mistake SA made in the past, and continues to make, is to be lobbying for oceania to have a full spot at the world cup. I think we should be pushing for an extra spot for a merged oceania/asian qualifying group.
asia has a lot of pretty low standard teams, just like oceania. they also have quite a few good teams that australia would benefit from playing against. merging the groups would mean everyone gets more games at their own standards, rather than the bottomr teams getting flogged, and the top teams, especially in oceania, only getting that home and away playoff against good quality.
Asia would benefit from that extra half spot, and oceania gets more decent football, less of a qualifying lottery. |
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| tathi |
$210 to rego for soccer this year :/
is there any problem playing asian countries, or the better teams in the J-league, rather than some obscure nation on the other side of the world? |
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| webmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier
Why werent there any Australians at the stadium in Montevideo back Nov 01? Just shows how loyal we Aussies are. Forget about all the other sports which are inferior, and spend the time and energy the sport that really matters football. |
How many Uruguayans were at the MCG? |
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| tubby |
quite a few australian resident uruguayans were at the mcg. I know at least one who got to hang out with the team before the game. same for the iranian game 4 years earlier. One of the benefits of playing against the soccerroos, no matter what country you represent, there's a good chance you'll already have a supporters group living here.
can't say i heard of many aussies living in uruguay.
as for playing asian teams, outside declared qualifying games (and thus spare weeks in domestic football calendars) it's still a long way from the football hubs in europe when your first team isn't based in australia.
remember only a few years ago the NSL wouldn't admit perth, so one perth team played in the s-league in singapore instead. |
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