|
Ecstasy approved for medical study. (pg. 2)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| juice7 |
| still, it would be very cool go to wal-mart and buy E, no stress whatsoever :tongue2 |
|
|
| tranceDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj adagnitio
I really don't get how this works at all considering as far as I know the U.S. government doesn't grow any pot? |
I'm pretty sure they at least did at some point for research and I'm sure they knew of perfect growing methods which produced awesome pot. I doubt they're growing it anymore and I doubt people were able to get thier hands on seeds from it. Most likely your friend isn't getting government grown pot unless he's getting it from a labratory or something. Sometimes people will get good pot and assume it's the government pot (people usually call it g13). Best thing about this stuff is that it's so clean meaning it doesn't make you hack your lungs out even after a huge hit. |
|
|
| dj adagnitio |
| The government probably did have some grown for them at some point. However as you said it is very unlikelly anyone would have enough to sell, if they could get any. What his friend probably was selling was from somewhere like the compassion club. |
|
|
| sandstorm03 |
/me jumps up
GIMMI GIMMI GIMMI!!!! |
|
|
| neovalkyr |
| Isn't the government issued weed, medicinal pot? You know for people you have glaucoma? |
|
|
| dj-sean |
| quote: | Originally posted by lesprock
it would be a complete catastrophy if they did legalise it.people would be dying every weekend, because they think its ok to do it and therefore take way too much. |
Probably nowhere near the same rate people die from alcohol every weekend. It probably has long term side-effects when abused, but it takes a retarded amount to OD on. It also doesn't make you think that you're "okay to drive home" when you're obviously not.
As far as medical marijuana in the US, I'm pretty sure that some states allow you to get a license to grow it for medical purposes, Oregon being one of them.
And back to the topic at hand: It's about ing time! |
|
|
| lücid |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
reaheeheeely??
|
that's the best phonetic spelling i've ever seen of a word on the internet. :toothless |
|
|
| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by lücid
that's the best phonetic spelling i've ever seen of a word on the internet. :toothless |
10x...i try ;)
(actually it was a reference to Jim Carrey, as he says in his movie Ace Ventura: Pet Detective)
btw, i like the pic on your sig heh :) |
|
|
| tranceDJ |
| LOL...I think it's funny how they're going to give 1/2 the people MDMA and 1/2 the people placebos like they're not going to be able to tell the difference. |
|
|
| ratz |
mdma is 1 of those few drugs that i can honestly say my life has benifited from and i honestly feel that every 1 should try it at least once on there lives...
this is a great day in medical history and i can only see good things from this point on |
|
|
| MsGod |
It's a step in a positive direction...regardless of whether you agree or disagree with drugs/drug use, you cannot deny that the scheduling of said substances is a huge infringement on our constitutional rights (for those of us in the usa)...maybe this will help fix some of the damage caused by the harrison act...
Melissa
| quote: | Originally posted by juice7
i found that at http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/2...tudy/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A South Carolina psychiatrist said Wednesday he will immediately start recruiting patients after winning approval to conduct the first study testing MDMA -- better known as ecstasy -- as a therapeutic tool.
Dr. Michael Mithoefer plans to conduct psychotherapy sessions with 20 women who suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder due to sexual assaults or other violence, and who haven't been helped by other treatment. Twelve of the women will receive MDMA prior to the sessions while eight will be given a placebo.
The Food and Drug Administration approved Mithoefer's protocol in 2001, but it took another two years to find an institutional review board willing to sanction the study, which is a required step when dealing with human research subjects.
Mithoefer's research required approval from the Drug Enforcement Administration because MDMA is a Schedule I drug. It's grouped with drugs like heroin, cocaine and LSD, all considered to have no medical use.
Bill Grant, a spokesman for the DEA, said the final approval came Tuesday night.
Mithoefer says he works with post-traumatic stress disorder patients all the time and he's excited about the possibility of finding a better treatment for the hundreds of thousands of Americans who suffer from the sometimes debilitating disorder.
"We owe it to them," he said. "It would be irresponsible for the medical community not to investigate something like this."
At the same time, he warns that using MDMA in an uncontrolled setting can be very dangerous.
"It's really important for people to realize the fact that we have permission to do this study and we can do it safely in this setting," he said.
Also, the fact that he's received permission for the study, he said, "does not mean that you can use ecstasy safely and anywhere."
MDMA was first invented in 1912 but largely ignored until young people made it a recreational drug starting in the late 1970s. Psychiatrists quickly became aware of its unusual properties, and several dozen experimented by giving MDMA to patients -- including people suffering post-traumatic stress disorder -- and others with intense anxiety after receiving diagnoses of terminal cancer.
One of those patients from the early 1980s is an artist now living in the western United States, who spoke with CNN. She did not want her name used.
After being raped and beaten at age 17, the woman suffered severe panic attacks for eight years, leading to three hospitalizations before being treated with MDMA. Before those sessions, she said her trauma was misdiagnosed as schizophrenia, severe depression and bipolar disorder.
"MDMA allowed me, for the first time, to sit with the details of the event, and separate them from what was happening in the present," she told CNN. "I was able to relax my body. I was able to say, 'this is not happening to you right now.' "
Suicidal at the time, she said the treatment may have saved her life.
"There might have been another way, but the way that I see it is that I probably would have died," she said.
"When someone is traumatized, walls form around trauma -- like a scar -- and it's hard to get someone to open up and talk about it," explains Dr. Julie Holland of New York University, author of "Ecstasy: A Complete Guide."
"What's unique about MDMA is that it's actually stimulating but decreases anxiety," Holland told CNN. "It could help people feel calm and comfortable enough to explore painful things that are hard to talk about."
"A good analogy is that it would give psychiatry something akin to anesthesia during therapy," she said. "And unlike anesthesia, your memory is completely intact, but even enhanced. You remember the trauma very clearly, but are comfortable enough to talk about it."
"Because it anesthetizes the patient to some extent," Holland said, "you can get to that malignant core in one or two sessions instead of three or four years."
But Dr. Scott Lillienfeld, a psychiatrist at Emory University who has studied post-traumatic stress disorder, said that hypothesis is "at the least, muddled."
Lillienfeld said effective treatment actually requires the patient to face their trauma head-on. "If you're calm, you're not getting at the root of the problem," said Lillienfeld.
He also said Mithoefer's study has methodological problems.
"There's no real placebo," he said. "Everyone will know who's on the drugs. What I wonder is, instead of a placebo, why aren't they giving a drug that mimics the physical effects?"
Mithoefer said all participants will have to undergo psychiatric screening and a physical exam to ensure they don't have any physical risk factors. Ecstasy, a strong stimulant, is thought to be particularly dangerous to people with high blood pressure. It also has been known to cause dangerous overheating in people who take it and then exercise or dance for a long period of time.
Patients in this clinical trial will be given the drug only one or two times. They will be under a doctor's supervision for the entire time they are under the drug's influence.
Mithoefer said he hopes to begin the actual therapy sessions next month.
:whip:[its preatty interesting, although i dont think they will legilize it |
|
|
|
| MsGod |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj adagnitio
I really don't get how this works at all considering as far as I know the U.S. government doesn't grow any pot? |
I hate to break it to you darlin, but the US government does a whole lotta you don't know about...and to whoever said it would be a catastrophy if X was legalized, you are obviously really ignorant on issues dealing with drugs and prohibition...go ahead and google it and see what the statistics say.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Zombie0729: haha, my old roomate sells government issued weed... and all my friends that smoke(i don't) say its unbelieveable. |
Mr. Nice-Guy?? |
|
|
|
|
