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Armin @ godskitchen 26/03/04 (pg. 4)
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| spike_boy69 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anaardvark
I WILL go listen to my uk hard house, cos ill be at Tidy Weekender 5. Another 3 days of hard house.. ING YES!!! :D |
IM JEALOUS! can i come in your suitcase? hehe |
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| Ste |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anaardvark
Heh, how little you know. Hard House is probably one of the biggest dance music scenes in the uk. Just because 9.9 tenths of the members on this forum may hate it, doesnt mean its not popular.
You have no interest in hard house fair enough, but this means your probably not aware of the sheer size of the scene. Tidy Trax is one of the biggest record labels, if not the biggest dance music record label in the uk and if they can put on a 3 day event for 3500/4000 people, at £100 per person in north wales of all places, and still have half the available rooms sell out on the first day, just to Tidy FC members, and the rest within a total of 2 weeks, with hundreds and hundreds left waiting on the reserve list, just in case someone might drop out somewhere, then thats proof itself that hard house is actually quite popular.
Nights like Polysexual taking over typicaly trance nights at Gods is more proof that you'll not get rid if it in a hurry... Sorry :P |
i wouldnt say polysexual is taking over gods.
anything which isnt trance is getting a look in at gods now. |
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| cotters |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ste
i wouldnt say polysexual is taking over gods.
anything which isnt trance is getting a look in at gods now. |
Either Gods take some credit for opening up their club to other genres of music, or they need the money. Whatever the reason it has to be viewed as a good thing that other less popular types of music get to host their event at a major venue such as air. |
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| CyberTeraz |
| I still proclaim that this 9hr set looks about as fun as a school trip to a church, only to find out that the church isnt there and has been replaced with something that is not a church and your really upset because you really wanted to go to the church and made you parents spend the last of there giro'd on you because they liked churches and when you get home they willbe upset because they thought you were going on na school visit to a church but you didnt because it not there anymore and your upset about it! x that feeling for 9 hrs. |
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| Ste |
| quote: | Originally posted by cotters
Either Gods take some credit for opening up their club to other genres of music, or they need the money. Whatever the reason it has to be viewed as a good thing that other less popular types of music get to host their event at a major venue such as air. |
they still want to rake it in, rather than survive but not make wadloads of cash with jsut trance.
theyre being greedy, trying to retain the profits of a few years ago by selling out to other genre's most popular dj's rather than diversifying to survive IMO. |
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| spacetrain |
The cost of trance djs in relation to other genres of dance music is so much more. The profit margins on putting on trance events has diminished unless its a large arena event. The top djs can ask for £10,000+ for playing in a 'unknown' club while GK,GC and Cream get cheaper rates. When PVD played in Cardiff for Bionic they lost thousands even tho the club was rammed.
Its the same with hard house too especially in London. Certain dj agencies will not let their djs play in London at other hard house nights. Look at Nukleuz - nearly all the big hard house events in london are run by them. And when there are 4000 capacity events nearly every other week they must be raking it in more than GK.
Hardcore would be a nice money maker tho - the djs are still very cheap and the price of a event is about the same as seeing a headline trance dj play. |
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| cotters |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ste
they still want to rake it in, rather than survive but not make wadloads of cash with jsut trance.
theyre being greedy, trying to retain the profits of a few years ago by selling out to other genre's most popular dj's rather than diversifying to survive IMO. |
We live in a capitalist society where profit is the name of the game. No profit = no club. Without the club we go back to the days of illegal raves. I don't think i'm the only UKTA who's pissed off at paying £2.50/£3 for a bottle of water that i know cost the club about 35p. I do think that we get a good deal from Gods when it comes to admission prices. Next friday is priced at £15 for a 9hr event & IMO is a good line-up. Compare this to the price of attending a football match (90mins of entertainment???), or a night on the piss. I think we're getting value for money. :gsmile: |
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| cotters |
| quote: | Originally posted by spacetrain
The cost of trance djs in relation to other genres of dance music is so much more. The profit margins on putting on trance events has diminished unless its a large arena event. The top djs can ask for £10,000+ for playing in a 'unknown' club while GK,GC and Cream get cheaper rates. When PVD played in Cardiff for Bionic they lost thousands even tho the club was rammed.
Its the same with hard house too especially in London. Certain dj agencies will not let their djs play in London at other hard house nights. Look at Nukleuz - nearly all the big hard house events in london are run by them. And when there are 4000 capacity events nearly every other week they must be raking it in more than GK.
Hardcore would be a nice money maker tho - the djs are still very cheap and the price of a event is about the same as seeing a headline trance dj play. |
PVDs at Escape 27th March. Be interesting to know how much the club will lose if what you say is true.
P.S. You going??? |
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| spacetrain |
I was going to go to escape but its actually cheaper to go to london the day before for the crasher/vandit night. I might still go tho. Never been to escape but hav heard it is quite small so it will be rammed in there.
Be interesting to see what he plays as at Bionic his set was much harder than usual - probably the worst set I have seen from him. If he is only playing for 2 hrs its also costs loads more than it should be. |
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| cotters |
| quote: | Originally posted by spacetrain
I was going to go to escape but its actually cheaper to go to london the day before for the crasher/vandit night. I might still go tho. Never been to escape but hav heard it is quite small so it will be rammed in there.
Be interesting to see what he plays as at Bionic his set was much harder than usual - probably the worst set I have seen from him. If he is only playing for 2 hrs its also costs loads more than it should be. |
I'm going to Gods for Absolute Armin on the 26th then PVD at Escape on 27th (i hope). :crazy: Escape WILL be rammed for sure. Friendly crowd down there & 2 excellent residents mean it should be a quality night.
You been to Heaven before? |
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| Ste |
| quote: | Originally posted by cotters
We live in a capitalist society where profit is the name of the game. No profit = no club. Without the club we go back to the days of illegal raves. I don't think i'm the only UKTA who's pissed off at paying £2.50/£3 for a bottle of water that i know cost the club about 35p. I do think that we get a good deal from Gods when it comes to admission prices. Next friday is priced at £15 for a 9hr event & IMO is a good line-up. Compare this to the price of attending a football match (90mins of entertainment???), or a night on the piss. I think we're getting value for money. :gsmile: |
i dunno, id rather go to an underground trance night like planet zogg and only pay a 5er and 1.50 for a bottle of water ;)
or any other small night with dj's who can mix just as well and pla ythe same tunes for 1/4 the price. |
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| spacetrain |
No haven't been but looking forward to it.
The price for events is a absolute joke tho. Look at homelands this year £55 + booking fee. And then you probably have to pay to park the car which is another fiver. Its all about draining as much money out of you as they can. Lets hope it all goes back to warehouses and outdoor raves - that would be wicked. |
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