|
Terrorism Wins in Spain (pg. 9)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vesa
If a European leader can't prove that his policy is going to work, the public doesn't approve it independent of how noble it sounds. |
So then, it seems it's the voting public which is to blame, rather than the politicians.
At least that's the case in Denmark IMO, where a group of 5% of the population swings from right to left depending upon which political block promises them the better terms - right here and right now.
The representative democracy we have in the west should be changed to allow for longer periods. Then necessary but unpopular decisions could be carried through.
Yoepus: You keep generalizing when it comes to Europeans - I invite you to challenge the efficiency of the Danish government or the Irish one for that matter. Is it OK for the rest of us to generalize when speaking about Americans or Israelis? |
|
|
| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
Is it OK for the rest of us to generalize when speaking about Americans or Israelis? |
But its easier to make fun of Europeans that way!
I couldn't just generalize you guys by country, I only do that with the French, it would simply take too long and make humor in to a sad sad commentary. Making fun of Europeans would quickly end...
And if I couldn't make fun of Europeans, that would be a sad, sad world:( :nervous:
... afterall who would balance out all those generalization the rest of you make when speaking out about Americans or Israelis??? :D :p |
|
|
| anuneventrade |
You guys are not realizing my point. I wasn't trying to discuss the terrorist attacks effects on the election.
Regardless if entering into the war was against the public opinion of the Spaniards, they still entered it. Upon entering any war, you have a sense of liability and responsibility. Entering into a war means that you realize that there might be attacks on your own country, but you enter a war for a purpose, usually to be rid of the enemy. If on the first attack of the terrorists (whether it be at election time or not) a country backs out, that shows a weakness in leadership. Whether that leadership be new leadership or old, it shows a weakness. If a new leaders goal is to withdraw from the war, it should do it. But if your country is being bombed, and innocent people being killed, and all you do is roll on your back and get out of the war, how are your people supposed to believe that you are protecting the country?
The country of Spain realized it was going into a war against public opinion, yes. It went through a change of leadership, yes. BUT, the country of Spain also has an obligation to continue alliances it had made at the beginning of the war. Throughout history Spain has been somewhat unreliable in the sense of alliances and wars... but I suppose that is irrelevant to this date.
Before September 11th, the government had no real objective to enter into a war against terrorisim. But after a terrorist attack, it decided for the better of the country to enter into the war. Now, Spain entered into the war before a terrorist attack. The first terrorist attack it recieved (it is still not confirmed yet that it actually WAS the fault of Al Queda, but that's besides the point), it backed out. IMO, this is not a sign of great leadership.
Yes, terrorists usually attack fully knowing that they will create some type of change. But please realize, if they attack on the first time and they end up having a change in leadership that backs down to them, why wouldn't they attack again, and again, and again? They know the country isn't going to do anything. |
|
|
| ZinG |
Spain became a target for terrorist attacks after the war
not before:rolleyes: |
|
|
| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Hey Drug_Tito, how about we abort our plan to take over a carribean island and head over to the icy-wasteland known as Finland? :D
|
Yeah, not a bat idea! We'd save the problem of trying to upload tanks and cars into a 2m long boat. And we'd get all those nice blond chicks and fancy cell phones! |
|
|
| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZinG
Spain became a target for terrorist attacks after the war
not before:rolleyes: |
Can you not read?!
| quote: | | Spain entered into the war before a terrorist attack. The first terrorist attack it recieved (it is still not confirmed yet that it actually WAS the fault of Al Queda, but that's besides the point), it backed out. |
|
|
|
| ZinG |
yes i can
but not your post cuz i dont care:stongue: |
|
|
| UnBracKo |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
Pull your little company-sized token force back to Spain from Iraq (no one would notice anyhow if they left) and go cower in a friggin' hole waiting for a few dozen Al-Quaeda to make their next move and terrorize your entire multi-million population. BWAHAAHAAA! What a bunch of friggin' pussies!!! Go check out the thinnest book in the library entitled "French War Heroes" for a reference...and go figure out why you're a third rate Third World country while you're at it!
:whip:
[[[smoke]]] |
What are you trying to say with this silly comment??
oww its like, my dad has a 30,000 € car and your a 8,000 € one. Are you trying to say that your country is more powerful than any other?? Everybody knows it!! and who cares?? I'm sure my quality of life is better than your... and just a fact in your country the differences between richs and poors are increasing, so a few members of your society are increasing their fortunes and an amount of population will become poors.
And please more respect for the victims, I would wish you would have been there. |
|
|
| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZinG
yes i can
but not your post cuz i dont care:stongue: |
If you're not going to post anything with relevance to the thread, or you're going to make idiotic comments, pleae go the COR. You're useless posts make you look like a fool. |
|
|
| anuneventrade |
UPDATE
Confirmed that ETA Basque is responsible.
CLICKY
Oh, and don't be lazy. All you need to do is type in an email address and password. :rolleyes: |
|
|
| ZinG |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
If you're not going to post anything with relevance to the thread, or you're going to make idiotic comments, pleae go the COR. You're useless posts make you look like a fool. |
you seem to be blind cuz i was posting about the thread |
|
|
|
|
