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US Preparing for Military Draft in Spring 2005/ planned on bombing Iraq day of 9/11 (pg. 2)
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| Vlad |
| You know what, it, Ill become a foreign exchange student and go to Spain! That way going to Ibiza would be a whole hell of alot easier for me. :thepirate |
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| hitokiri |
| holla mexico!!! voy a mexico bebe!! arriba!!! |
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| Clyde77 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taub
i am going to break both of my legs and then i am going to mexico |
why dont u just go to mexico now.
and you would still have your legs with you lol |
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| sandstorm03 |
| there isnt any 1 in iraq left to fight |
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| DR86 |
drafts scare the hell out of me.
i doubt one will be reinstated. if senators/reps listen to their constituents (LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO)i doubt the proposals will go through. |
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| DaveSZ |
You know these guys are idiots when a former Nixon appointee speaks out:
Mr Clarke is bi-partisan, having been originally appointed by Richard Nixon and promoted/kept through Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...rism_adviser_14
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Ex-Aide Says Bush Doing 'Terrible Job'
2 hours, 39 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!
By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Richard A. Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism coordinator, accuses the Bush administration of failing to recognize the al-Qaida threat before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and then manipulating America into war with Iraq (news - web sites) with dangerous consequences.
He accuses Bush of doing "a terrible job on the war against terrorism."
Clarke, who is expected to testify Tuesday before a federal panel reviewing the attacks, writes in a new book going on sale Monday that Bush and his Cabinet were preoccupied during the early months of his presidency with some of the same Cold War issues that had faced his father's administration.
"It was as though they were preserved in amber from when they left office eight years earlier," Clarke told CBS for an interview Sunday on its "60 Minutes" program.
CBS' corporate parent, Viacom Inc., owns Simon & Schuster, publisher for Clarke's book, "Against All Enemies."
Clarke acknowledges that, "there's a lot of blame to go around, and I probably deserve some blame, too." He said he wrote to National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) on Jan. 24, 2001, asking "urgently" for a Cabinet-level meeting "to deal with the impending al-Qaida attack." Months later, in April, Clarke met with deputy cabinet secretaries, and the conversation turned to Iraq.
"I'm sure I'll be criticized for lots of things, and I'm sure they'll launch their dogs on me," Clarke said. "But frankly I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something."
The Associated Press first reported in June 2002 that Bush's national security leadership met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior to the Sept. 11 attacks yet terrorism was the topic during only two of those sessions.
The last of those two meetings occurred Sept. 4 as the security council put finishing touches on a proposed national security policy review for the president. That review was finished Sept. 10 and was awaiting Bush's approval when the first plane struck the World Trade Center.
Almost immediately after the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Clarke said the president asked him directly to find whether Iraq was involved in the suicide hijackings.
"Now he never said, 'Make it up.' But the entire conversation left me in absolutely no doubt that George Bush wanted me to come back with a report that said, 'Iraq did this,'" said Clarke, who told the president that U.S. intelligence agencies had never found a connection between Iraq and al-Qaida.
"He came back at me and said, 'Iraq! Saddam! Find out if there's a connection,' and in a very intimidating way," Clarke said.
CBS said it asked Stephen Hadley, Rice's deputy on the national security council, about the incident, and Hadley said: "We cannot find evidence that this conversation between Mr. Clarke and the president ever occurred."
CBS responded to Hadley that it found two people it did not identify who recounted the incident independently, and one of them witnessed the conversation.
"I stand on what I said," Hadley told CBS, "but the point I think we're missing in this is, of course the president wanted to know if there was any evidence linking Iraq to 9-11."
Clarke also harshly criticizes Bush over his decision to invade Iraq, saying it helped brew a new wave of anti-American sentiment among supporters of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites).
"Bin Laden had been saying for years, 'America wants to invade an Arab country and occupy it, an oil-rich Arab country.' This is part of his propaganda," Clarke said. "So what did we do after 9/11? We invade ... and occupy an oil-rich Arab country, which was doing nothing to threaten us."
Clarke retired early in 2003 after 30 years in government service. He was among the longest-serving White House staffers, transferred in from the State Department in 1992 to deal with threats from terrorism and narcotics.
Clarke previously led the government's secretive Counterterrorism and Security Group, made up of senior officials from the FBI (news - web sites), CIA (news - web sites), Justice Department (news - web sites) and armed services, who met several times each week to discuss foreign threats.
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| DarkFall01 |
| I have a question for you guys. When I turned 18 I had to apply for selective service, was mandatory. Now, if I remember right, they said I CAN be sent to war if anything like this happens. Is this true? I'm Swiss/Spanish, doesn't really make any sense. |
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| DarkFall01 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
If you are a US citizen, yes you can. If you have a greencard and are a permanent resident I think it applies too. Dual citizenship Im not sure. |
Well, I do have a greencard, I'm only signed up as Swiss here though, doesn't make any sense though to send someone that's not American to fight for the US.
If this happens, I'm getting the hell out of here :o |
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| beema |
I'm leaving this country as soon as I'm esablished on my own and have enough money.
America is going straight down the ter lately |
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| Zewad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Bliss
http://www.dior.whs.mil/mmid/M05/hst0309.pdf
As of September 30, 2003, the US has 1.2 million active troops in the USA.
Over 100,000 in Europe and Russia. 100,000 in East Asia and the Pacific. Over 7,000 in Africa and the Near East. Almost 2,000 in the Central and South Americas. 25,000 counted "undistributed." (180,000 participating in Operation Iraqi Freedom alone)
This adds up to about 1.5 million American troops active and available worldwide.
How much more do they think we need? |
North Korea has a million man Army, China has 200 million man Army. I don't feel as if they are over reacting. Although I do disagree with a draft, nobody should be forced into anything they don't want to do. They should give an incentive to join or higher pay or things to make people to decide to join on their own, but not by a draft. I'm a lieutenant in the Army btw. |
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| AddictedTo1982 |
| Well this is sort good news for me. Yee pee kayaeee mutha******s. I hope I get sent asap . My life is SO ED UP RIGHT NOW. I won't havE to take that asvab test TOO. So send me now :D |
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| AddictedTo1982 |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
there isnt any 1 in iraq left to fight |
Actully there are alll these stupid Sanworm Iraqis groups shooting american soldiers and other stuff also. But yeah really there isn't any strong allinace going against US Soldiers
As for this end up as Vietnam, I really don't think so. I mean Vietnam atleast had us running/ A bunch of low life arabs are not s threat well to me btw.
Yeah Bush is such a moron too. Man did his 9/11 ad really things up. What is he trying to show, what he is a good president for letting this happen, the hell with this barn, horse riding, honky who lives off his dad. Hahahahha Bush is so ed now I am glad Colin Powell son went after Howard Stern ,now Bush lost 12 million votes
I hope some of you guys are happy that John Kerry looks to be winning. Well see how things tur up later
SEACREST OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT |
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