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Israel Kills Sheikh Yassin (Leader of Hamas) (pg. 4)
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceaholic
i am egyptian and i was on the phone with my dad from egypt..and i could hear in the background alot of protests really loud..seeking revenge from israel n the US..so it is not just the palestinians that will want revenge...but alllllllll muslims...now this action might have recruited a million people or so...i fear the worst out of this.. |
It would be *extremely* foolish of muslims to target the US for this. One thing is that you need to apply seriously flawed logics to blame this death on the US. But more importantly I expect Bush to jump at the opportunity to invade a new muslim country, plus it would give him opportunity to throw in more unilateral support for Israel (in this year of election). And that would certainly not help the Palestineans in any way. |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
rooflz |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Deejiuana
I seriously love this optimistic and "imaginary feeling of security". Man, seriously, wake up, or use ur logic, u really think u are now safer because the guy is dead? When he was dead, he was "sendin" all those suicide bombers, ummm, just think of how many more attacks Israel will be HOSTING! |
ya I agree,some people are too blind to see the reality,and then when reality hits them they are soo shocked!!but this action by Isreal will create even more supporters of Yassin.
I cant believe how some people here think that Isreal will be more safe now since Yassin is dead!!:conf: |
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
Myth 1: The Yassin strike will escalate the violence
Nearly all news reports claimed within the first two sentences that the IDF strike is "likely to escalate violence," and constitutes "an enormous gamble by Sharon" that "risks triggering a dramatic escalation in bloodshed." (Associated Press)
This claim ¯ which belongs on the editorial page, not in the same breath as the actual news report of the event ¯ was so widespread that one almost forgets that it represents only the Palestinian position: The official PA statement characterized the Israeli strike as inviting "more violence and further escalation."
The absent Israeli position: Though terrorist efforts may increase temporarily, in the long run the elimination of Yassin will upset Hamas' leadership and violent capabilities, and serve as an essential deterrent to ongoing Palestinian terror. As Israeli spokesman Avi Pazner said:
His elimination will serve peace in the long run. He is personally responsible for all the most dreadful attacks in Israel. He was a dangerous extremist Islamic ideologist. He was danger to the entire region. By eliminating this threat to peace we will improve chances for a better Middle East.
Responsible news reports should either convey both positions, or neither.
Myth 2: Yassin was an impotent old man
BBC profiled Yassin as "a frail man who could barely see. His voice was thin and quavering." The Evening Standard prominently quoted the UK Foreign Secretary, who said "he did not believe that Israel would benefit from the killing of an old man in a wheelchair."
Actually, Yassin was in a wheelchair since age 12, when a sporting accident left him paralyzed. It's self-evident, therefore, that being wheelchair-bound never hampered Yassin's ability to orchestrate unprecedented terror ¯ he founded Hamas in 1987 and proved perfectly capable of building the organization to its current strength from a sitting position.
Moreover, Yassin has had enough wherewithal in the recent years to direct dozens of heinous terrorist attacks, leaving Yassin's hands drenched in Israeli blood.
AP completely omitted any reference to Yassin's connection to terrorism until the final sentence of their report, and then only referred to Israel "blaming" Yassin for "inspiring" Hamas bombers.
Myth 3: Yassin was a 'spiritual leader' who deserved immunity
AFP, like most agencies, described Yassin as "the Islamist movement's spiritual guide," which suggests to a western audience that Yassin operated in a peaceful, contemplative realm aside from the violence, and was therefore unfairly targeted by the IDF. BBC went so far to say Yassin was "a powerful inspiration for young Palestinians disillusioned with the collapse of peace hopes." CNN calls Yassin a spiritual leader (unquoted), but then puts scare quotes around Israel's reference to him as a "terrorist."
Actually, Yassin's brand of 'spirituality' is the very ideological and emotional fuel that drives Palestinian (and worldwide Islamic) terrorism, the plague of our age. Yassin continually called for suicide terrorism as a religious obligation, and even said about himself that "the day in which I will die as a shahid [martyr] will be the happiest day of my life." (Al-Quds, July 26, 1998)
As Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Sofer said:
[Yassin] was not a spiritual leader. This term does injustice to the term 'spiritual leader' and an insult to real spiritual leaders. He was a terrorist mastermind.
Myth 4: Israel's strike creates a western threat of Islamic terror
After Hamas released a statement that threatened radical Islamic retaliation beyond Israel's borders, AP called this an 'unprecedented' threat, triggered by Israel:
For the first time, Hamas also threatened the United States, saying America's backing of Israel made the assassination possible...In the past, Hamas leaders have insisted their struggle is against Israel and that they would not get involved in causes by militant Muslims in other parts of the world. Today's statement suggested that Hamas might seek outside help in carrying out revenge attacks, since its capabilities have been limited by Israeli military strikes.
This is simply untrue ¯ Yassin himself had long called upon world Islamic terrorists to join with Hamas in global jihad. MEMRI reported in March, 2003 that on the Hamas website, "Sheikh Ahmad Yassin called on the Islamic nation 'to strike at Western interests everywhere if Iraq is conquered.'" And just two weeks ago, Hamas announced its commitment to "the global level of the Islamic world" as the reason for its choosing British suicide bombers to murder Israelis at Tel Aviv's Mike's Place in 2003. |
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
Its about time Israel grabbed its balls and killed this lunatic!
I hope to see the same fate with the rest of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al-Aksa and Hezbollah.... I won't even get to the others ones just yet!
I believe Arafat should also be killed, or better yet, captured and sentenced to life in a cell somewhere in the Negev. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I cant believe how some people here think that Isreal will be more safe now since Yassin is dead!!:conf: |
no one thinks israel will be safe now when he is dead doh :o
but he desrves to be killed, and if anyone here thinks otherwise than he is simply not mentally healthy . |
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| Dopey |
| AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I hope he burns in hell:) |
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| George Smiley |
Reckon there should be a new approach to ending terrorist attacks that should be used in all situations...a unilateral surrender to the terrorists demands...
What?! Never know, it might work and less people will die listening to trance in clubs...! |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| Heh, I kinda agree with melech mike/shlomo hamalek/ilan yosef here. I mean, it's not like the goals of Hamas are a free palestinian state. Their only goal is the destruction of Israel. Like someone said, it's like saying that killing Bin Laden will result in a wave of retaliatory attacks against the US and that he should be spared. Well, leaving those guys alive results in waves of suicide bombers as well, so I don't see the big difference. Sure, we might see an attack or two take place (not like that doesn't happen every week anyway), but the long-term quantity of attacks will decrease. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Reckon there should be a new approach to ending terrorist attacks that should be used in all situations...a unilateral surrender to the terrorists demands...
What?! Never know, it might work and less people will die listening to trance in clubs...! |
But then all those displaced from the terrorist demands will then resort to terrorist activity to acheive their agenda in a never-ending cycle :p. Of course, given that the former terrorists were resorting to the things they were resorting to, it seems unlikely that they would practice the same kind of restraint that society is currently practicing. :nervous: |
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| George Smiley |
Yea but why would terrorists carry on after they have got what they want?!
(By the way the comments were tongue in cheek) |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Yea but why would terrorists carry on after they have got what they want?!
(By the way the comments were tongue in cheek) |
Well since we would be subjected to a religious fundamentalist state (or some similar bollocks) then WE woudl be the ones resorting to terrorism to get a secular state.
(yes i realise you were joking ;)) |
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