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Kerry = A war criminal (pg. 3)
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by PHALPAX
At least he didn't go AWOL and in a drunken stupor for a year :) |
Bush didn't go AWOL. The proof is his dental records,and his medical records. You can't have either if you are AWOL. You also can't have honorable discharge.
So,this crap that Bush went AWOL, it isn't true. (Anyone in the military knows about what I've just said.)
To add, Bush over came his alcholism. |
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| webmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
Just as I figured. I actually lived through the times and was not a minor.
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Why does this make your opinion any more valid? It doesn't.
In fact, I'd argue that your emotion surrounding the issue is clouding your judgement.
Back on topic, it fascinates me how Kerry is a war criminal for following orders, but those drafting the orders aren't?
Interesting. |
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| hooknife |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
He said so on TV! CSPAN is replaying some interview of his from 1971 as a rep of the VVAW and bidding for Congress.
He admitted to himself being a war criminal.  :disbelief
So what do you think, still gonna vote for a self-confessed war criminal come November?
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I would vote for the Devil then have Geroge Bush in office another 4. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by hooknife
I would vote for the Devil then have Geroge Bush in office another 4. |
how about that, your wish just might come true
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by webmeister
Why does this make your opinion any more valid? It doesn't.
In fact, I'd argue that your emotion surrounding the issue is clouding your judgement.
Back on topic, it fascinates me how Kerry is a war criminal for following orders, but those drafting the orders aren't?
Interesting. |
Kerry made it a point to throw his war medals over the White House fence back in the day. Reckon he had a replacement set or never threw his own over the fence with the intent of never seeing them again. He found a purpose for the replacement set recently, but most folks don't remember the originals.
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by hooknife
I would vote for the Devil then have Geroge Bush in office another 4. |
no doubt, you would. |
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| occrider |
| So far the anti-Kerry criticism has been pretty low-brow stuff. I can take every single criticism and guesstimation of Kerry's potential performance in the white house, juxtapose it against Bush's proven gross incompetance with severe ramifications in quite a number of decisions over the past 4 years and I still don't see anything that comes remotely close ... |
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| smokeape |
| quote: | C'est La Vie
Kerry too 'French'
US presidential hopeful John Kerry needs to stop acting so French if he wants to win the race for the White House, a French-born, US-based consultant and "medical anthropologist" says.
This is just priceless.
"Kerry's trouble is that he is simply not the common man," Clotaire Rapaille, who's been contacted by Kerry's campaign team for advice, told the Sunday Telegraph newspaper.
Senator Kerry has no idea how the rest of us live since he made his money the old fashioned way by marring into it. Just look at his record on taxes. He obviously has no idea how it is to work hard to make the ends meet and end up with a large chunk of it taken away before you ever get your hands on it.
Forget the French connection," he advised.
"The French are thinkers -- 'I think, therefore I am'. Americans want somebody who is going to take action. All this association of Kerry with thinking too much and nuance and five-sentence answers is off-code."
Has John Kerry ever thought to begin with? I mean he flip flops over every issue refusing to make up his mind.
We're in a world where actions speak louder than words. For example we just got Libya, an enemy since I was a kid in the 80's to give up all of their nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. Thinking and negotiating didn't cause this, action did. Because Coloniel Kadhafi saw us removing our enemies from power he saw that the list of our enemies that he was on grew significantly shorter he decided to give everything up and become our new best friend.
Besides dropping the French connection, Rapaille suggested that Kerry take fewer holidays, start giving "one word or two" answers to questions
This is really funny....Kerry's advisors are basically telling him that the only way he can get elected is to keep his mouth shut. So basically he's incapable of selling America on why he should be President because every time he talks he just screws it up.
With more and more stuff like this maybe we'll see a landslide come November. Of course chances are that the landslide will crush Senator Kerry but that's ok. |
I don't like the French either...
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
So far the anti-Kerry criticism has been pretty low-brow stuff. I can take every single criticism and guesstimation of Kerry's potential performance in the white house, juxtapose it against Bush's proven gross incompetance with severe ramifications in quite a number of decisions over the past 4 years and I still don't see anything that comes remotely close ... |
We (the americans in this forum) keep talking around this. Your "gross incompetance" is my "principled leadership". It sounds funny but there is no convincing me otherwise that this man Kerry has stood by any principal since the mid seventies when he was leading the VVAW, which I respect.
The Demacrats have lost, not just their core values, but every majority in seats of power in this country beginning with the senate then the house then the High Court followed by the rest of the federal judges around the country then the governorships and their governments. Finally they lost their great white hope Bill Clinton. I'm not going to take anything political away from the man, he is very bright, very charismatic, great politician,on and on. He came into an era in this country that that fostered his beliefs and bolstered his credibility as a fine peacetime liberal commander in chief. A lot of people miss that era and want it back BADLY.
When you say "gross incompetance". Fine. I see a man that sticks to his guns (no pun intended). In the long run I believe his principals will pay off.
When you say "severe ramifications" I can't help but think that most who share your point of view have succumb to a political party's and the millions who want the Clinton way of life back's relentless agenda. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
We (the americans in this forum) keep talking around this. Your "gross incompetance" is my "principled leadership". It sounds funny but there is no convincing me otherwise that this man Kerry has stood by any principal since the mid seventies when he was leading the VVAW, which I respect.
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And Bush has stuck to his 2000 campaign promises? The "compassionate conservative"? By all means please attempt to distinguish Kerry from Bush in their adherence to principals and promises ... and by that I don't mean show me how Kerry has flip-flopped, show me how Kerry has flip-flopped whereas bush has definitively NOT.
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The Demacrats have lost, not just their core values, but every majority in seats of power in this country beginning with the senate then the house then the High Court followed by the rest of the federal judges around the country then the governorships and their governments. Finally they lost their great white hope Bill Clinton. I'm not going to take anything political away from the man, he is very bright, very charismatic, great politician,on and on. He came into an era in this country that that fostered his beliefs and bolstered his credibility as a fine peacetime liberal commander in chief. A lot of people miss that era and want it back BADLY.
When you say "gross incompetance". Fine. I see a man that sticks to his guns (no pun intended). In the long run I believe his principals will pay off.
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Personally I don't care about needing a liberal president back in office. I could make do with any number of other republicans. I simply do not want Bush ... simple as that.
As for sticking to principles, instead of examining his stubborn resolve to stick to those principles, why don't you examine those principles and the how reckless his steadfast resolve to those principles have been.
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When you say "severe ramifications" I can't help but think that most who share your point of view have succumb to a political party's and the millions who want the Clinton way of life back's relentless agenda. |
I'm a libertarian ... I disliked many of Clinton's policies. Particularly nation building ... go figure. |
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| MrSquirrel |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I could make do with any number of other republicans. |
What? You aren't planning on "liquidating" your "boss" anymore as soon as January 21st 2005 roles around (provided he wins re-election) ?
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| webmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
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Kerry too "French"
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I don't get the point this article is trying to make? Kerry married into a wealthy family so he's unfit to lead the country?
Bush, on the other hand, who was born into one of Texas's richest and most powerful families, and having never held down a real job is a better choice? |
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