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Markus Schulz - Coldharbour Sessions 2004 (pg. 3)
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by keithos27
YaleTrance,
I was at that show too... I was pretty disappointed. I just stood on the 2nd floor leaning over the banister all night... didn't really catch a dance vibe. :( My friend and I left around 3, and apparently like 2 songs after we left they dropped a crapload of classics! I was so pissed when I found that out!
I bet Howells was amazing... too bad we didn't make it over there (that was his last marathon set, right?).
-Keith
PS. Why McProg? I get the Prog part... what is the Mc part for? |
1. They did play more anthems after 3am, i left a bit after 4am. Didn't get really excited about anything though, but it was fun.
2. Howells was great, it was his last marathon at Arc indeed. :(
3. I called it McProg because I think this style is starting to sound like the fast food of progressive, trying badly to have a wider appeal without much depth put into it. Pre-packaged elevator music with beats. It's prog, but there's nothing progressive about it (this goes for the general vibe, I do enjoy some tracks). Too many simple one-note piano melodies with a few pretentious layers that end up sounding superficial because it tries to hard to compromise between melody and progressive.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jeskot7
It's not all about dancing like a maniac. If it's too epic everyone complains that it overused and not really "trance", if it's not enough according to the masses then it is not danceable. In my opinion, the sound that Gabriel and Dresden/Markus Schulz are famous for are the most intelligent of the whole trance/progressive scene. The tunes are so moving it's not necessarily for rocking out but more for moving your shoulders and appreciating the subtleties. A year ago I would have never found myself loving the slower slide of EDM but this stuff is quite sensual and enchanting.(Elevation - Clear Blue OMIGOD!!!!) |
My problem with it is not that it's not danceable or that it's "chill". I love ambient, downtempo, slow deep house, idm, chillout a la Ulrich Schnauss and other non-dancefloor stuff. Most of the stuff I listen to is classical music, so for me it's not an issue of dance let's art vs. art let's dance. My criticism is that this style is generally lacking in depth and musical quality because it tries too hard to compromise between melody and prog, and frankly it fails to impress me. Just sounds pretentious and superficial.
| quote: | | the sound that Gabriel and Dresden/Markus Schulz are famous for are the most intelligent of the whole trance/progressive scene. |
I know that opinions are subjective, but that's a gross overstatement. Trance and progressive are in a sad state when people think that a track like Satellite is part of the most intelligent style there is. This style is not subtle or complicated at all. Maybe it's making you think it is, but it's really just fooling you, and that's the reason that it doesn't impress me. This is music that caters to MP3 bedroom trancers, with a few soothing easy listening sounds that entrances and tricks the listener into overestimating it.
I like Clear Blue. I loved hearing PvD, Tiesto and Sasha spin it live. It had a great effect on their respective sets, because they know how to use that kinda contrasting sound and create the right vibe with it. But the vocals in this compilation totally ruin the track, and it makes no sense to place it at the end like that. This compilation is 50 points below the musical IQ scale of classics such as Balance 005, GU013 or ISOS 2. Sorry, but this is just my opinion. |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Markus Schulz is being a pioneer IMO. I think his wife made this quote... |
A pioneer in domesticating prog and trance, blending them together, and creating fast food music.
This is a step backwards from what people like Sasha, Dave Seaman, James Holden, Nick Warren and even Tiesto and Oakey have done in the past. There's nothing really new or refreshing about this. Think about it.
| quote: | If you want those sick underground tunes, then go listen to Danny Howells. If you want your epic trancers, then go listen to Armin Van Buuren. Feel like something inbetween? Markus Schulz...
Just depends on your mood I guess? |
I'm tempted to include Armin in the fast food prog trance category as well, but that's a whole different story. LOL..... |
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| arturob |
stfu. markus' mixing skills are way better than tiesto's british railway.
xxx arturo |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by arturob
stfu. markus' mixing skills are way better than tiesto's british railway.
xxx arturo |
why does whenever someone disagrees with me they attack Tiesto even if it's not related to the topic being discussed? i'm not his personal lawyer. :rolleyes:
armin and markus play watered down prog. deal with it. |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by arturob
:P your fault :P |
:whip: :whip: :thepirate |
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| arturob |
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
:whip: :whip: :thepirate |
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| Cobalt |
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
Trance and progressive are in a sad state when people think that a track like Satellite is part of the most intelligent style there is. This style is not subtle or complicated at all. Maybe it's making you think it is, but it's really just fooling you, and that's the reason that it doesn't impress me. This is music that caters to MP3 bedroom trancers, with a few soothing easy listening sounds that entrances and tricks the listener into overestimating it. |
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm just waiting for some blunt fool to post the seminal revelation "as long as you like the music, who cares?" |
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| arturob |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm just waiting for some blunt fool to post the seminal revelation "as long as you like the music, who cares?" |
yeah who cares ! |
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| Dmatrox |
McProg, HAHAHAA
Theres a lot of nice tunes on there. |
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| Numb3rJuan |
| I heard the cd. Loved it. Really enjoyed the tracklist. |
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| fitom tiel |
can i get some ketchup to enhance the flavour? :rolleyes:
i'm lovin' it! |
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