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Call me Dumb but whats an Acapella?
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| D South |
| I keep hearing of people with acapella collections! but what is it? is it a style of music or a Pad, or a sound? How do I know if a song is an acapella? |
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| Tranc3 |
Ok, well you asked for it.
You're dumb.
An acapella is a track with just vocals in it. No instrumentation. Just vocals. |
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| D South |
So is it just a vocal recording? Your saying there is no other sound just the singing? ..
I'm cofused I just did a search in limewire (p2p)and I downloaded some songs that said they were acapellas but there in music in the background |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by D South
So is it just a vocal recording? Your saying there is no other sound just the singing? ..
I'm cofused I just did a search in limewire (p2p)and I downloaded some songs that said they were acapellas but there in music in the background |
I never said it was just singing. However, I do recall saying there's no instrumentation - just vocals. |
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| TranceZoner |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
I never said it was just singing. However, I do recall saying there's no instrumentation - just vocals. |
Oh man do i like you.............
Such a nice girl! ;):D |
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| Dj Thy |
A real acapella is indeed only the vocal. Usually for a good acapella you need the original recording. Some labels not only give out full mixes, but also instrumentals (instruments only) and acapella's (only vocals).
Now the problem is, a lot of labels/artists don't release those "partial" versions, they only release full mixes, ie instruments and vocals mixed.
Now this is a question that's been asked a lot : how to remove/keep certain parts of a mix. For example, how to make an acapella out of a full mix?
Sadly, this can't be done properly. Lot's of people don't understand that when you mix different stuff together, it also "merges" the common frequencies. For example, a vocal may have some frequencies that a lead synth will have. So if you want to remove the synth, you're bound to affect the vocal too. For some applications, that "mangled" vocal will be enough, but for some, the change will be unacceptable.
One of the most "succesful" methods though is the phase reversal trick.
A little theory : if you have two IDENTICAL sound waves, playing at the exact same time, and one of the two waves is phase reversed... If the level of both waves is identical, there will be maximum cancellation. In a perfect world, that would mean, they cancel each other out completely : no sound. Of course, we don't live in an ideal world, so a little bit of sound will remain.
A lot of occasions, both a full mix and an instrumental mix are released, but not an acapella. If you apply the theory above, you take the full mix, and you play the instrumental at the same time (the exact same time is of extreme importance), but reversed in phase, you can understand that the two instrumental parts will cancel each other out. The vocal will remain. Sort of.
If you consider acapella's in their real meaning, a proper acapella will be "clean". You'll only have the vocal. A "dirty" acapella will still have some music, but that can be of several causes : either you used the phase trick, and the instrumental won't be cancelled out completely (usually the vocal will have been changed due to the phase cancellation still), or it has been badly recorded : you got lots of phones spill or studio spill in the vocal track. You'll have to decide if the vocal is clean enough for use in your tracks.
For example, it can be perfectly ok when used in conjunction with other instruments (in a remix for example), but can be too noisy if you want to have a part in your song where only the vocal says something. You be the judge there... |
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| D South |
| Thanks Dj Thy, that was more helpfull than Tranc3:whip: |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by D South
Thanks Dj Thy, that was more helpfull than Tranc3:whip: |
How so? He said the same thing I did, only added in a bit about phase inversion for vocal removal, which is not something you asked about. What was so hard about my post to understand? |
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| Jay M |
| quote: | Originally posted by DeZmA
slijm slijm :D |
haha wat zou jij doen als ze je zo aankijkt ;)
I searched at kazaa for acapellas but i get only r&b stuff and some guys singing together, real acapella.
How do you get real good vocals for e.g. a remix. E.g. of Andain....? or less expensive singers ;)
I have some contacts who can sing tho, but i'd like to play with good vocals first before screwing time of my beloved friends. |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jay M
haha wat zou jij doen als ze je zo aankijkt ;)
I searched at kazaa for acapellas but i get only r&b stuff and some guys singing together, real acapella.
How do you get real good vocals for e.g. a remix. E.g. of Andain....? or less expensive singers ;)
I have some contacts who can sing tho, but i'd like to play with good vocals first before screwing time of my beloved friends. |
Typically for a remix you go to whoever owns the rights to the track, usually that will be the label. Sometimes they'll sell you a license, sometimes they'll give it to you for free, but most often they will reject you if your name isn't Armin, or anyone else who already has an established reputation for that matter. If you have no reputation, you might want to show them an idea you had, and if not....then it's time for a bootleg remix I guess. |
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| KilldaDJ |
can anyone provide a sample of the 'phase' trick?
im just curious as how sucessful this trick really is... |
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