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Trance Dictionary Project (pg. 4)
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| Verona^My |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjCoz
Synth - an electronic sound that can be varied to produce a melody.
Bassline - the main or loudest bass drum sound.
Kick - derived from a drum set where the main round drum that sits on the floor gets "kicked" by a rubber mallot to produce a bass sound.
Reverb - a continuous echo-like sound that decays over time, rather than immediately.
Break Down - the succesive omission of layers of sound to arrive at a simplistic sound.
Build Up - the successive addition of layers of sound to arrive at a complex combination.
Drum Roll - a very quick and constant beat with very small intervals between beats that comes just before the climax or final breakdown.
Pan - the movement of sound to certain speakers such as right or left.
Melody - a series of organized notes.
Rift (Riff?) - I don't know this one.
Lead - the main part such as a lead vocalist.
High Hat - derived from the sound produced by a certain part of a drumset that looks like two cymbals facing each other on a stand. The top cymbal is lifted and then dropped onto the bottom.
Snare - Also derived from the sound produced by a part of a drumset. When a cymbal looking object sitting on a stand is hit.
Ambience - a quiet atmosphere produced by subtle changes in long synths with very little or not beat. |
Synth - you'll need this to produce synthpop. haha. The others help too, if you like good synthpop, i.e., with fx, pads, and swoosh sounds. :haha: |
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
Just to clear things up, that is a description of pre-epic/anthem trance that Ishkur wrote once...
As for an explanation I was thinking more along the lines of a contextual definition of all music related terms in the piece.
Good luck to me eh? :( |
If you break it down by giving a list of terms that you would like defined then perhaps I or someone else could help you out. |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | Originally posted by flavdave
If you break it down by giving a list of terms that you would like defined then perhaps I or someone else could help you out. |
What I meant by contextual definition of all music terms in the piece was....
I wouldn't mind a definition of every musical term in that description of Trance and how they relate and combine with each other to create a Trance track.
I've never taken a music class in my life. I understand what certain things mean, like lead synth, metronome, attack, decay, resonance, frequency, tone, delay, reverb, bassdrum, etc... but I don't understand how the whole description fits together as a whole to make a Trance track. I suppose i'd need some musical training to be able to do that...since I doubt anyone will care enough to try explaining it to someone who has almost 0 music experience beyond listening to it.
Ok hell here it is:
What's a 16th/32nd note rhythm synthesizer pattern?
What's a repeating 1-4-5 (A-D-E) 32nd note sequencing arpeggio?
What's a bass section of minor whole notes usually drifting through the aeolian scale?
What's a bass chord?
What's a minor scale melody of 8th notes?
What's a polyphony of 8?
I might be able to piece it together myself if I understood those things. |
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
What I meant by contextual definition of all music terms in the piece was....
I wouldn't mind a definition of every musical term in that description of Trance and how they relate and combine with each other to create a Trance track.
I've never taken a music class in my life. I understand what certain things mean, like lead synth, metronome, attack, decay, resonance, frequency, tone, delay, reverb, bassdrum, etc... but I don't understand how the whole description fits together as a whole to make a Trance track. I suppose i'd need some musical training to be able to do that...since I doubt anyone will care enough to try explaining it to someone who has almost 0 music experience beyond listening to it. |
One of the best ways to learn about that stuff (aside from hanging out in the Producer's Forum) is to get some producing software like Fruity Loops if you are a beginner and just mess around with it. Most of those terms you just named don't really have anything to do with the songwriting itself (i.e. notes and patterns) but really have more to do with the sound of the samples being used. If you use samples straight out of the box from the software you are using, most likely your track is going to sound flat and uninspiring. But manipulating the sound by tweaking the EQ, adding compression, delay, reverb, etc can give your track a lot more intensity, especially on a really good stereo or club system. I guess what the desciption is trying to say is that to produce a decent track, you not only need to come up with an interesting melody and arrangement, but you also need to get the most out of the samples by tweaking some knobs and adding effects, something I'm trying to learn myself right now. |
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| Radagast |
I don't want to know how to create a track... I just want to understand what that all means, what all the terms/phrases mean and how they relate, when and where they come into place in the trance track, and what they sound like. I'll probably never fully comprehend this without either a detailed explanation of Ishkur's specific description or some sort of musical training. Oh well.
I know that by the time I understand Ishkur's description, I would probably know or need to know the basics of how to create a track. But that's not the reason I want to understand. I have no desire currently to create a Trance track. I just want to understand that specific description for the moment and how it translates into what I hear in a track like Age Of Love - The Age Of Love, for example. And I was wondering if someone could explain it so that anyone could understand. |
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| DjCoz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Verona^My
Synth - you'll need this to produce synthpop. haha. The others help too, if you like good synthpop, i.e., with fx, pads, and swoosh sounds. :haha: |
Wha? You got better definitions? |
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| Jeskot7 |
| This is awesome, one of the mods should make it official |
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| Taz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast What's a 16th/32nd note rhythm synthesizer pattern?
What's a repeating 1-4-5 (A-D-E) 32nd note sequencing arpeggio?
What's a bass section of minor whole notes usually drifting through the aeolian scale?
What's a bass chord?
What's a minor scale melody of 8th notes?
What's a polyphony of 8?
I might be able to piece it together myself if I understood those things. |
16th note rhythm sounds like ONE da da da TWO da da da THREE da da da FOUR da da da (ONE, TWO, THREE and FOUR are on the beat; i.e. where the bass drum goes.) The snare fill before the melody is a good example of 16th notes.
Ishkur made a mistake; there are usually no 32nd note patterns in trance, as this is 16th notes at twice the speed (ONE brrrrrr TWO brrrrr etc.)
| quote: | What's a repeating 1-4-5 (A-D-E) 32nd note (should be 16th) sequencing arpeggio?
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Three notes repeated over and over, bottom to top, in 16ths.
The aeolian scale = the minor scale. Don't tell me you don't know a major scale from a minor scale. ;)
Bass chords? That's another mistake. There's no such thing as a bass chord. I think he's referring to a chord progression, which would take too long to explain here.
8th notes: Remember 16ths are ONE da da da TWO da da da etc. 8ths are ONE and TWO and THREE and FOUR and.
Polyphony of 8 = maximum of 8 melody notes happening at once. |
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| Radagast |
| I'll say that a lot of this is hard to understand without sound samples, but that was very helpful nonetheless. Thank you. |
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| DJ Alex E. |
can anyone explain again what a riff is?i didn't understand it
a sound sample would be nice :) |
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| marco.V |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Alex E.
can anyone explain again what a riff is?i didn't understand it
a sound sample would be nice :) |
to me its a very short melody with usually fast notes that keeps repeating with or without the main lead. |
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| _Supreme |
could anyone give me a good definition of all the different trance styles?
progressive trance?
acid trance?
psy/goa trance? |
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