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Recording your promo mix...would this be wrong?
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| JRB |
| To use a computer mixing program to record a promo. This way it would be a completly flawless recording. when I actually do a gig I exclusivly use vinyl, but when I'm recording I always hear once or twice when the beats go very slightly out of sync and it's no longer a flawless mix. I'm a perfectionist, so this bothers me. what do you guys think |
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| DJ_Octane |
It would at least showcase your track selection to whomever is listening to it. That's a plus. My heart does not agree though. I think if you were to do anything like that, you should do this...
1. Play track 1 and mix in track 2. Do it till its perfect.
2. Mix into track 3. If you mess up, play track 2 again without touching the pitch faders. Mix track 3 again till perfect.
3. Use an audio editing program to splice track 2 at any given point and adjust your volumes so its unnoticable. It should sound perfect.
I know I might get flamed for this suggestion, but at least this way you can say you were truly mixing your tracks. It may take more time, but I think its a better approach. I used it when I made my first mix for myself. Anyone think this would be alright for a demo that would be handed to promoters? |
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| Kiragan |
| It's not really a "demo" of your skills at that point... |
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| trancinchink |
| just do it again.... how can you expect to get everything perfectly in one go? even if you mix a set and the beatmatching is perfect on the first try all the way through. how do you know, if you dont try a couple more times, what can make your mix better? trying other positions on the tracks you can mix it in, using different eq patterns, mixing in at the break, change the track order, etc. i ALWAYS try variations when i'm re-recording. also, i'd rather have the promoter judge me on what i can actually do, not wut i think i can do. |
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| DJ_Octane |
| Oh yeah, I forgot. Whatever you decide to do...just make sure you can back it up. |
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| jdat |
Who cares.
Just do it on the computer if you feel like it. This right here is a debate that could go on forever so just follow your own instincts.
Many people insist that it should not be done, because your skills are not proven. Well any idiot can try and record a demo 50 times he's bound to get it right somehow; so it's not exactly skills 100%.
What's important is controling your flow when playing live and such. That; no matter what people tell you; cannot and never will be reproduced on a demo cd ( unless off course it's recorded in a club ).
I don't think recorded material and live gigs are the same world at all so working it differently; is somewhat ok. |
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| tranceDJ |
| As long as you don't record a perfect promo and then play the gig and trainwreck constantly you should be fine. It wouldn't surprise me that even big name DJs alter their promo mixs at least a bit. |
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| stupidisco |
just know that while you are using your "pro tools" to create that perfect mix, there is a dj out there that can do that on the wheels of steel.
feels ty huh? |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by stupidisco
just know that while you are using your "pro tools" to create that perfect mix, there is a dj out there that can do that on the wheels of steel.
feels ty huh? |
I think technology should be viewed as another means of creativity not a way to cheat :rolleyes: |
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| JRB |
| Well, the reason I brought this up in the first place is because in another thread, the issue was brought up that you demo should be 100% flawless. this being the case, this would be one way to make a flawless demo cd. Now, I wouldn't believe in doing this if i couldn't back up my mixing. The problem I have is when I record my mixes and play them back in studio monitors I can hear the beats or snares go slightly off beat once in a while. however, in a club situation, you wouldn't even notice these things. |
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| dknylady |
who told you that demos had to be 100% perfect? what a silly statement.
a demo is a showcase of your skills with spinning, not how great you are at splicing sound waves in a computer program.
yeah basically if they get a perfect demo they are gonna think 2 things:
1. you cheated or did something fake to make it perfect
2. you are a wonderful dj and they will expect you to spin perfect when you go live.
i never edit my mixes, or demos. i am also a perfectionist, i understand your problem. but i just am waiting for the day when i spin that perfect mix...;) |
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| progressivepey |
| quote: | Originally posted by dknylady
who told you that demos had to be 100% perfect? what a silly statement.
a demo is a showcase of your skills with spinning, not how great you are at splicing sound waves in a computer program. |
my best advice for you is to take it slow. you are not going to become a professional dj overnight. keep practicing until making a flawless demo is easy for you. then you will be able to show a producer, promoter, or just anyone who wants to hear you how good you really are.
if you're going to make a cd sound perfect to play for people, that is one thing. but boasting that you are much better than you really are is just plain senseless. you might as well take someone else's demo and put your name on it because it isn't a true representation of your skills. i've been spinning for two years and haven't taken any shortcuts. i've only made two mixes that i would call "demos", but i am proud of myself for being able to back up my work and call it my own.
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