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CD Djing (pg. 3)
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by H-Town
Nah, didnt mean it like that. Just saying that its a lot harder to get anywhere using a laptop, rather than using vinyl, thats all.
Never said PVD, Markus, etc etc would not be pro's. Besides that, a lot of whom you mentioned started out on not being on the laptops, in case you didnt know? :happy2: |
Yes I know they didn't start off with Lappies, I'm not dense. I was just wondering if you thought using a laptop makes you un-pro, which is what it sounded like, but apparently not what you were trying to say. |
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| Nic |
| quote: | Originally posted by DeleriuM2K
Ive made this suggestion a million times before, but no sites listen.. if only the folks at those huge download sites like itunes would listen, they would make tones of money in a new market
all they gotta do is get liscensing for these tracks that electronic producers are putting out much like all the stores that sell them. they get the uncompressed, full quality .wav for the track and offer it for download for a fee. then the person can download the wav and burn it themselves for *FULL QUALITY* track that will sound perfect in a club environment, plus there is no shipping charge, no wait time, nothing. just download and burn
however I've yet to see this happen...
I will be a huge customer if sites start doing this instead of crap mp3s |
you wouldnt use wave, you would use a lossless method of compression like: http://www.monkeysaudio.com, or even a high bitrate mp3 or ogg, can u tell the differance between a 320kb encoded mp3 and the cd? |
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| skytribe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nic
you wouldnt use wave, you would use a lossless method of compression like: http://www.monkeysaudio.com, or even a high bitrate mp3 or ogg, can u tell the differance between a 320kb encoded mp3 and the cd? |
Bzzt. Wrong. mp3 is far more lossy than WAV. |
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| Nic |
| quote: | Originally posted by skytribe
Bzzt. Wrong. mp3 is far more lossy than WAV. |
err really? why do u think i posted monkeys audio, monkeys audio is lossless :D |
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| Nic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
yea, haha you did use that little word "or" in there! :D |
*edits post* ;), well i knew what i ment anyway :D. I see what you are saying about any digital source being lossy, but then you could clasify vinyl as lossy because of the ever so slight degradation in sound quality you get after playing the records over and over, i guess there has to be a point when u draw the line, the point at which any extra quality will be of no use because either you wont hear it from your sound system, or your ears wont hear it. The point i'm trying to make is no sound will be a perfect clone of the original analog source, it will only appear perfect to your ears. But i guess this is getting way off the original topic and i'm really just posting to avoid my physics assignment.
edit: yeah i ment lossy but i said lossless |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nic
*edits post* ;), well i knew what i ment anyway :D. I see what you are saying about any digital source being lossless, but then you could clasify vinyl as lossless because of the ever so slight degradation in sound quality you get after playing the records over and over, i guess there has to be a point when u draw the line, the point at which any extra quality will be of no use because either you wont hear it from your sound system, or your ears wont hear it. The point i'm trying to make is no sound will be a perfect clone of the original analog source, it will only appear perfect to your ears. But i guess this is getting way off the original topic and i'm really just posting to avoid my physics assignment. |
When you say "lossless" you mean "lossy" right?
About no sound being a perfect clone of an original analog source - you're talking about traditional instruments, right? Like strings and woodwinds and vocals and such? Because 99.99% of all studios today use a DAC/ADC somewhere in the process, even if it goes to vinyl at the end. So you're still getting a broken waveform...but even then, if you were to use analog sequencers and whatnot, your sound quality would then only be as good as the wiring inside your machines, which is far from perfect. |
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| Nic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
When you say "lossless" you mean "lossy" right?
About no sound being a perfect clone of an original analog source - you're talking about traditional instruments, right? Like strings and woodwinds and vocals and such? Because 99.99% of all studios today use a DAC/ADC somewhere in the process, even if it goes to vinyl at the end. So you're still getting a broken waveform...but even then, if you were to use analog sequencers and whatnot, your sound quality would then only be as good as the wiring inside your machines, which is far from perfect. |
yep to all that, and from what i understand a lot of so called analog synths are just very powerful digital synths anyway, or "virtual" analog as they like to call it, but not so sure about that point |
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| H-Town |
| quote: | Originally posted by skytribe
Bzzt. Wrong. mp3 is far more lossy than WAV. |
Ill second that....... |
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| H-Town |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
When you say "lossless" you mean "lossy" right?
About no sound being a perfect clone of an original analog source - you're talking about traditional instruments, right? Like strings and woodwinds and vocals and such? Because 99.99% of all studios today use a DAC/ADC somewhere in the process, even if it goes to vinyl at the end. So you're still getting a broken waveform...but even then, if you were to use analog sequencers and whatnot, your sound quality would then only be as good as the wiring inside your machines, which is far from perfect. |
lol..... I love how you guys use "lossy" and "lossless" as the terms. lol hahahah. |
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| rainbow_marble |
| i personally use vinyl, however if i were to do it all over again there would be no hesitation for me to buy cd decks... digital pitch, ease of finding CD's instead of vinyls, how a CD not to wear down after alot of use and the ability to burn CDs to play are all major reasons that I would choose CD decks over regular 12" decks. Once i save up enough cash, im going to buy my own pair as well. |
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| DeleriuM2K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
True, all digital media is lossy tho if you think about it... Its just the amount of loss after the origional copy is recorded to WAV (say 32bit @ 192khz, DVD quality?) that matters.
SACD (I am a SACD whore) though is fairly close to a non-lossy digital storage method, using ultra high frequency sampling (in the megahertz range) and 1bit repersentation (basically, is the last bit higher or lower then the previouse bit) plus some really nice filters to create a 99% accurate copy of the analog source. |
electronic music is digital in the first place :)
usually recorded in 24bit/96khz originally, so full CD quality 16bit/41khz is lossy, but DVD would be better than vinyl since it remains digital, isnt converted, and isnt affected by wear and tear
:p
I sense another analog vs digital argument :p |
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| H-Town |
| CD's/Mp3's are going to be the next thing in music. Vinyl will be a thing of the past. Enough said..... :happy2: |
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