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Beatmatched records losing tempo?
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Dirk W.
Hmmm, yea, so I didn't really know how to title this thread. The question however is that sometimes I will beatmatch two records with about a 45 second lock. After I am positive they're locked I will take the needle off the incoming record and wait for the playing record to get to the point I want to insert the incoming record. Once I start to cue in the incoming record I notice that they are off a lot more than when I first had them beatmatched. Is this my imagination? I don't think so. It seems like they play slower or quicker or something as they reach the center of the record. Does anyone else notice this? Could it be I have to much weight and drag on the stylus as it goes towards the center of the record that it is actually affecting the record's speed.

Who knows.... I keep thinking maybe this is just in my head. Let me know I'm not crazy. :crazy:
tu_face
what decks do you have?
Dirk W.
A quality pair of 1200m3ds. they have taken some beating, but they still have a strong motor and are properly calibrated
tu_face
hrm curious.. sometimes records that arn't pressed brilliantly can alter pitch slightly as it gets further into the middle.. but i don't think the weight on the stylus will make a difference, unless you have it set stupidly high. what carts are you using and how much weight is on them?
Dirk W.
I am using ortofon concorde carts with nightclub S needles. I reversed the weight on the back of the tonearms.
WeasiL
I would have to agree its the pressing. This happens to me with certain records as well. I usually just make a small mark on the label of the record to remind me its a bad pressing.
tu_face
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Originally posted by Dirk W.
I am using ortofon concorde carts with nightclub S needles. I reversed the weight on the back of the tonearms.


concordes usually like it around 3-4g :)
Dirk W.
Well, I used to try and fiddle with the correct weight and all that stuff. I was having trouble getting it all right. I wrote my DJ friend in Mexico City and he told me to just reverse the weights to fix the problem. I mean, it seems to work fine. It doesnt seem to abnormally wear or my records or anything else. I threw that weight comment in just as a longshot guess as what could be wrong.

Do yall disagree with his reccommendation to reverse the weight? Should I set it up correctly?
auujay
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Originally posted by Dirk W.
I am using ortofon concorde carts with nightclub S needles. I reversed the weight on the back of the tonearms.


Good god man! WHY?!

Nightclubs should work fine anywhere from 2-4. If you are really brutal with your records set it to 5 i guess.

Anyway, I would blame it on the pressing. I got 3 Drives - Sunset on Ibiza [Xtravaganza] and the hole was so off center that the song "worboled" the entire length of the track (the worboling getting faster the closer to the center it got).
Dirk W.
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Originally posted by WeasiL
I would have to agree its the pressing. This happens to me with certain records as well. I usually just make a small mark on the label of the record to remind me its a bad pressing.


How common is it to find bad pressings of records? This doesn't happen all the time, but it is far from an isolated event as well.

tu_face
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Originally posted by Dirk W.

Do yall disagree with his reccommendation to reverse the weight? Should I set it up correctly?


if i were you i would set it up with the weight the right way around, that way you can actually tell what weight you are putting onto the stylus.
vhx1
Yes, with the counterweight facing the right way, and set it to about 3 grams. It works great. I don't know why you would want to reverse the tonearm weight anyways
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