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tranzMental
Hmm...there are some VERY talented producers on this board, BUT not all of them are very 'expressive' with words.

I mean, some people aren't very good with expressing themselves, and how they feel. I remember talking to this one awesome producer and he's like "I don't know how the hell you could critique a track like that". :p Well, I just love giving feedback to artists, and letting them know what mistakes their made, or how great their song really is! :D
TrAnCeAkI
now what about ppl like me who dont produce ( well i tried , and it came out "different") i cant really give constructive feedback since i dont know most of the things u all do ,but i do say if i like a track or not!
Jay M
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Originally posted by TrAnCeAkI
now what about ppl like me who dont produce ( well i tried , and it came out "different") i cant really give constructive feedback since i dont know most of the things u all do ,but i do say if i like a track or not!


You're welcome! :D I want guys like you to download my music, that's the promotion part :)

It's about the people who just take reviews and don't return them.
Thunder5
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Originally posted by Jay M
You're welcome! :D I want guys like you to download my music, that's the promotion part :)

It's about the people who just take reviews and don't return them.


Totally agree with you. :)
EternalMusic
Yea me too. Anyway there are like 100 new members posting in the amature section and dont give a f*** about the forum itself :rolleyes:. " Hi review my latest ubertrack ". Should we put some rules or something? Just a thought.
Thunder5
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Originally posted by EternalMusic
Yea me too. Anyway there are like 100 new members posting in the amature section and dont give a f*** about the forum itself :rolleyes:. " Hi review my latest ubertrack ". Should we put some rules or something? Just a thought.


True, but forcing that kind of rules would be hard.
There will always be people like who just take and do not give back.
But one thing to do is not to give feedback to people whose first post is their first uber track.

Just my morning thoughts. :)
Jay M
In my opinion, strict rules are not really an option. It's too hard to implement them and check if nobody overrides them. It's easier to create habbits, unwritten rules for this forum.

It's quite simple actually. Most of us return to this forum and reply once in a while, so most of the names around here at least look familiar. So new threads by these names are free for you to review :D If you're not sure, just check the profile of the topic starter and see the number of posts. The newbies are mostly under 10 posts. Don't review their music, that's all. If everybody would do this, the problem is solved, cause newbies will eventually find out that they don't get reviewed for nothing...

:o ;) :D
kewlness
I think this whole issue is too complex to effectively enforce. Ideally, in an utopian amateur producers forum ;) you would have each member contributing and dedicated to help each other but of course that is way of the question.

I also think the problem may not be with the newbies that don't contribute, but with those who post as well. As Jay M said, you can simply don't review the tracks of someone who doesn't seek to contribute to this community.

Another point though, I would like to bring up is that people who post good helpful reviews are doing people a favour. Isn't it wrong to stop someone from being a good guy and reviewing a track?

My take on this is just leave it as is... the newbs that are less known on these forums will naturally get less response until they start contributing more to these forums and make a name for themselves by then hopefully more people will respond to the tracks that they post.
Spad
It's tough but there's not much can be done. It's hard to keep up on 56k though :) I've only posted one tune but I made a promise to myself to try and review at least as many tunes as replies I recieved.

I think too that people should be more encouraged to leave negative feedback rather than none at all. I've downloaded quite a few tunes in the past but on some I didn't want to leave negative feedback. Since posting my own though I appreciate how valuable (constructive) negative feedback can be.

Anyway: my thoughts.
somnium
well, i've seen track review forums turn into nice little idea-communes before, which is cool...but especially compared to those forums...

this place is really, really big.

lots more people coming and going here. i turned away from this place when i first found it, cause it's just so hard to keep up on this stuff.

i definitely understand what you guys mean, and i generally agree that it's a shame that it's so hard to get reviews...but i just think of it as taking a gamble when i post a track.

one thing i always try to do whenever i check out this forum is review all the tracks that have gotten no replies at all (at least, on the first couple or so pages)

Digital Aura
When I first signed on as a TA'er I NEVER came to the amateur music producers forum.
Not sure why exactly... but after shedding my n00b status and experimenting myself in the production field, I saw the value of the amateur forum.
Obviously, I knew that as a n00b I had no right to slam down a tune and say "HEY!LISTEN TO THIS"
I've come to the point where I can't wait to finish dinner in the evening and listen to what my peers have come up with! I enjoy reviewing the songs here and although you've only seen me here in the last 2-3 months, my input on YOUR songs definitely got me input on MY song. SO thanks for making this work...
IT DOES WORK BTW!
And you are mostly right...everyone here can spot a n00b who's only here to self-indulge! NEVER SEEN THAT NAME BEFORE!! :whip:
Here it is...

RESPECT the forum and your peers here, and you get the same. If someone critiques my song and offers one of their own works...I'll always do the same.

RESPECT. Thanks TAs!:thepirate
conexion
I'm a noob and I have posted three tracks. I have received feedback and pointers to what I am doing wrong or what needs work. This I am grateful for.

But I dont feel I am proficient enough to write feedback on others tracks, so I dont, not yet anyway.

But it seems that a lot of you in this thread are slamming noobs and it maybe the reason given above that they dont give feedback.

If I dont like a track I wont post a reply like "I have listened to your track and all I can say is that you need to work on it.... " which I have had. This is not helpful feedback at all but if it means you get more feedback..... See my point.

I thought the point of this forum was to get feedback on new work, established or not. The reason I post here is that I feel you will know better than I where I am going wrong, so that I can improve and then offer feedback on others.

Just a noobs point of view.
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