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Europe Through American Eyes (End of Europe?) (pg. 4)
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by mixinmusic
Well I always thought and correct me if I am wrong but Britain was Scotland, Wales and England while the United Kingdom was Great Britain plus N. Ireland. Thats what it does say on my passport anyway! |
Yea its confusing. See I though Britian is Wales and England, Great Britian would be Wales, England, and Scotland.. and then the UK includes N. Ireland (and used to include all of Ireland). :conf:
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Also I would ask where does the territories across the world still belonging to the UK come into this and isnt the Royal family also from Scottish descent too? |
Well I know the princess was from Wales.. have no clue about the Royals, but don't thin they are scottish. Could be. The UK terrirtories are typically categorized into its "commonwealth".
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The fact that Americans are afraid of trvelling because of prejudice shows how naive you lot accutually are!! See the world meet new people and explore some culture because really the US is neither the centre nor the epitomy of the world, im truly sorry to say... |
Or maybe the fact that Americans travel as Canadians would explain to us why Canadians are so popular and well recieved across the world:D |
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| Shakka |
I always thought Britain just referred to England primarily with likely inclusion of Wales, etc, but not Scotland or Ireland--I'm thinking about flags here and who has what flag. I always thought the collective group of islands was what constituted the United Kingdom. :p
With further research, I have just found this from the American Heritage Dictionary:
United Kingdom: or United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, commonly called Great Britain or Britain. Abbr. UK.
A country of western Europe comprising England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. Beginning with the kingdom of England, it was created by three acts of union: with Wales(1536), Scotland(1707), and Ireland(1800). At the height of its power in the 19th century it ruled an empire that spanned the globe. London is the capital and the largest city Population 58,091,000.
Great Britain: An island off the western coast of Europe comprising England, Scotland, and Wales. It is separated from the mainland by the English Channel and from Ireland by the Irish Sea.
Britain: The Island of Great Britain during pre-Roman, Roman, and early Anglo-Saxon times before the rign of Alfred the Great(871-899). The name is derived from Brittania, which the Romans used for the portion of the island that they occupied.
Wow. That may have confused things even more. But if I read it right, Britain probably refers more specifically to England, but it sounds a bit vague. Great Britain includes Scotland, Wales, and Ireland too apparently. I guess UK and Great Britain (Maybe it's short for Greater Britain) are interchangeable to an extent. Eesh!:p |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
Really hate to be gay and nit pick. But I REALLY don't like it when people say England when they mean Britain or the UK. To a Scottish person (i.e. me) thats really anoying.
England + Scotland + Wales + NI = Britain
Scotland is not part of England
Also for example Tony Blair is scottish so is the Chancellor, leader of Lib Dems and so is a huge number of the British Parliment, many in the highest postions.
But aslo in other thing like finance for example
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Scotland is actually has a resonably large effect on Britain. So when people just lug the two togeather it's just like saying Scotland doesn't exist which is peaving. I know Scotland is smallish and stuff but England is not Britain.
Sorry I've said this before but you must understand why it anoys me, it's like people calling Canada America.
I'm actually when I think about not all that peaved but it happens sooo often it gets grinding. |
Oops ... my bad. I stand corrected. From now on I'll collectively refer to all of you as 'wankers' :D;). |
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| FuzzyGreen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Hmm I always thought England + Wales = Britain
and that England + Scotland + Wales + NI = United Kingdom.
Oh well, good to learn something new everyday.:) |
Who cares what it's called, it just a place where a bunch of ing pricks live. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Hmm I always thought England + Wales = Britain
and that England + Scotland + Wales + NI = United Kingdom.
Oh well, good to learn something new everyday.:) |
Who cares what it's called, it just a place where a bunch of ing pricks live. |
just quoting, in case you would delete it..
ever thought of why people may think americans are ignorant?
really, you are a shame for your country... |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
A country of western Europe comprising England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. Beginning with the kingdom of England, it was created by three acts of union: with Wales(1536), Scotland(1707), and Ireland(1800). At the height of its power in the 19th century it ruled an empire that spanned the globe. London is the capital and the largest city Population 58,091,000.
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Apparently (I looked it up) Britain, short for Great in my eyes, does not include NI. But thats weird cos surely they have British as their nationality on their passport? But they are members of the UK. But they isn't a nationality associated with the UK as far as I know. So are they still Irish then?
About the Monarcy King James (VI) of Scotland became King James I of England when they didn't have an heir basicly.
But apparently the current lot are all Hanovarian.
| quote: | | Upon the death of Anne, the distant claims of the elector of Hanover were recognized, and he became king of Great Britain and Ireland as George I. |
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0108078.html
BTW sorry for taking this thread way off topic. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by mixinmusic
Well I always thought and correct me if I am wrong but Britain was Scotland, Wales and England while the United Kingdom was Great Britain plus N. Ireland. Thats what it does say on my passport anyway! |
according to my limey buddy sitting here with me, you are correct. |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Oops ... my bad. I stand corrected. From now on I'll collectively refer to all of you as 'wankers' :D;). |
Hehehe no problems with that :haha: it's true! :tongue2
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Who cares what it's called, it just a place where a bunch of ing pricks live.
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^that^ however is pretty stupid what kinda responce are you looking for? |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by mixinmusic
How many Africans are not from Africa and still call themselves African!! |
Not very many. |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by mixinmusic
Dervish, Just because you are not from Britain does not exclude you from being British!! How many Africans are not from Africa and still call themselves African!! |
But.... I am British, born in Scotland to Scottish parents my family goes back way back. :tongue2 |
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| TuanAnh213 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mixinmusic
Ok then lets use Asians as an example then.... or perhaps Chinese & Japanese take your pick.... |
umm..i'm an asian american? chinese american
or taiwanese american to be completely specific |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by TuanAnh213
umm..i'm an asian american? chinese american
or taiwanese american to be completely specific |
yea and I'm a Israeli Texan:crazy: |
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