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Apache Helicopter vs.... innocent farmers in Iraq (pg. 4)
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| DJ Rat 187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Dovla
USSR 13,600,000 7,700,000 21,300,000
United States 500,000 - 500,000
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some facts right there,
and that sucker(DiMethGuy) is telling us that they won WWII |
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| st0ka. |
US. just doesnt belong there period. It is time that they stop playing the world cop, cuz lately they do whatever the they want. When u are just an observer of these wars, and watch CNN, maybe you could even justify some of the actions, but if u live there you could see that they are playing with peoples lives. I have seen numerous "funny" videos on the net...where the americas army is displayed in their true colors, gunning down civilians, destroying their property and all with a laugh! (ie. "Don't loot" video, etc.)
I agree that we should fight terrorism, but there are other ways to do so, this way America just gathers more enemies, and creates more wars.
BTW. this post should be moved to the political forum...its hardly humor anymore |
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| TranzAddict |
W/ever u damn Anti-Americans....USA will never go down. We are smarter than that...We now in the 2004 have learned from history...that is why in 200+ yrs we have come this far...our constitution is brilliant and better than what is out there IMO...that's why u see alot of other countries trying to copy it....NOW LEAVE AMERICA ALONE AND STFU...IF U DONT LIKE US< THEN TAKE IT UP TEH POOPY CUZ WERE NOT HERE TO TAKE THIS >....
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| Rudy |
Just go and watch fahrenheit 9/11 should put some of your thoughts in a new perspective!
Hope u can understand the movie, cause looking at some of the replies posted by Americans, I dont give u to much hope! |
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| Wrench |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranzAddict
W/ever u damn Anti-Americans....USA will never go down. We are smarter than that...We now in the 2004 have learned from history...that is why in 200+ yrs we have come this far...our constitution is brilliant and better than what is out there IMO...that's why u see alot of other countries trying to copy it....NOW LEAVE AMERICA ALONE AND STFU...IF U DONT LIKE US< THEN TAKE IT UP TEH POOPY CUZ WERE NOT HERE TO TAKE THIS >....
NUFF SAID |
LMAO. This is hilarious..if you're so sure that you guys will continue to succeed with the current way your government is conducting itself..then you have no clue that HISTORY WILL REPEAT ITSELF. It always does, it's inevitable. I'll say it again, even though it's been mentioned in this thread before. Look at the Brits, the Romans, the Greeks, Mongols, etc. THEY ALL FELL EVENTUALLY...
I'm not saying, "you're all gonna die!" We're just saying that at some point in time, there's gonna be a huge shift in power in this world..and it will involve the USA losing it. That's all. Don't worry, you'll still be around... |
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| Arg |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rudy
Just go and watch fahrenheit 9/11 should put some of your thoughts in a new perspective!
Hope u can understand the movie, cause looking at some of the replies posted by Americans, I dont give u to much hope! |
Better yet go read some books... you know those things with teh werds in em! Id suggest starting with something like 1984 since it is pretty popular anyways. While you are reading compare george bush with Big Brother. While not all the lines match yet, enough should to show you what is going on. |
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| Spartan |
You can say that America shouldn't police the world, that's fine.
You can say that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq, ..I agree.
You can say that our soldiers caught on video haven't been the best example of American values, but whatever.
But seriously, how can anoyone honestly say that America didn't play a big part in World War 1 and World War 2.
Let it be a reminder to everyone that we entered World War 1 to help out our allies the British. We didn't need to go, but we did because we felt it was the right thing to do, and it was. The fact that you're criticizing our part in the war is unbelievable when we went all the way to another continent just to help friends. Germany had done nothing to us, other than the "Zimmerman telegram" and sinking one of our oceanliners.
Do you seriously believe WW2 could have been won w/o the US? Maybe they don't teach you about D-Day over in Europe.
Oh yeah, and to this Serbian kid who keeps posting stuff, maybe you've forgotten about the millions of dollars in aid that the US has poured into Serbia. You don't know what you're talking about. |
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| Spartan |
Poland kid, during WW2 your country was defeated in what like 1 week? Didn't you have like calvary charging against German tanks? Maybe thats why you didn't have many losses, b/c you weren't fighting for more than a couple days. Don't call Americans stupid horse boy.
Also its well known that the Russians had one gun for every 4 soldiers, and used to just charge into German machine gun fire. Life losses cannot be used exclusively to showcase a countries involvement in a war. We were fighting both Japan and Germany at the same time, while most of Europe was just fighting Germany. I think its safe to say we were involved. |
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| st0ka. |
HAHA dude what money are you talkin about, what aid....oh yea the nuclear waste and bomb aid is that what you mean? Thousands of civilians dead? Is that it? u in bombed our country and made up stories of ethnic cleansing just so u could get into Balkans....but the same terrorists that were attackin our people in Bosnia and kosovo (it is a fact that AlQaeda and other extremsist, were involved in fighting against serbs in both conflicts) and whom you supported in Afghanistan against the Soviets, ed u on 9/11 and other ocassions. For s sake OSAMA is a product of the US just so you get Soviets from behind. US didnt help us ...even in WW2 where u claimed u helped us, you aided Tito (also your man) who then went on to create a communist country in the BAlkans...which only postponed further conflicts.
Dude learn sum in history and then confront me....this may not be the best place however..as this is supposed to be a music site...
however i agree that in WW2 Germany could not have been stopped if United states had not entered the war...thats where you came out as the superforce...WW1 you didnt realy do much as the allies were strong already...you only enetered the war so you could claim money from the treaty
btw how do you explain bombing japan even after the japs agreed to surrender....reminder:They didnt want the bomb to go to 'waste' so they killed millions of innocent japanese civilians...
plz dude no more history out of you... |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | | Originally posted by DjSway Who said that I supported using criminals for pilots? |
Ok so you don't want pilots who break the law but...
| quote: | | Don't you know that in war even with the Geneva treaty and such, rules are broken all the times by both sides? |
Thats breaking the law (not rules law, international law).... hence they are criminals. It is simply a fact.
Deside what you want dogmatic support for criminals or pilots who are proptional in responce and can act in a controlled manner. Bear in mind this helicopter was kms (not in imediate danger, forget the "RPG"/pipe even if it was he didn't have it) away and that guy was rolling about on the ground. Some would call that murder. |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Spartan Also its well known that the Russians had one gun for every 4 soldiers, and used to just charge into German machine gun fire. Life losses cannot be used exclusively to showcase a countries involvement in a war. We were fighting both Japan and Germany at the same time, while most of Europe was just fighting Germany. I think its safe to say we were involved. |
I agree with most of what you say and anyone doubting the amount the USA helped and the men they gave to help should think about it a bit.
But that quote about the russians is just based upon "Enemy At The Gates". It was like that at the start by for example Russian tanks were for periods the best in the war. Russia made a huge contribution. Asd did Poland esp. in the RAF they helped win the Battle of Britain.
And something the Americans should realise, if Britain or Russia fell you would have to. Seriously. Also you never entered the war until it suited so making it into some huge favor at every possible chance to mention it is a bit gay.
But like I said the USA did contribute alot(which should never be fogotten), however Hollywood tend to paint a picture where they did everything (I could give you a million and one examples of it). And be honest how many non-american sources of information have to looked at seriously? America played a part however is was only a part not the whole thing as many peopel seem to think. |
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| Spartan |
Yeah my bad guys I got a little carried away w/ my last post. It's just a little frustrating when you enter a thread and see like EVERybody bashin the US. (especially in the humor section) It was late and I was in a bad mood already. My bad.
I also apologize for the Serbian comment, I'm sure I don't know the full story. And while we're at it the Poland one as well.
However I will say one more thing, please remember when you bash us that the US went into the Iraqi war with the best intentions. Our original plan was to set up an independent Iraq with a democratic government several months after the main fighting stopped. Now that this task has become extremely difficult we can't simply pull out and leave the Iraqi people leaderless. We're stuck there, and even though we'll get the worlds criticism, you have to finish what yous start. |
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