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Politically Correct Pop Machines! (pg. 2)
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Here's the deal. If kids want pop and junk food they will just go next door to get it. So, why not continue to allow the schools to benefit from the revenue instead? You and I both know that just because they have a vending machine full of unsweetened juice and granola bars.... oh wait those are banned too.... but anyways kids arent going to buy it just because its there, kids are going to buy because they WANT to. Why not offer the CHOICE of junk and healthy food?
You see, the biggest problem with our society today is that we as a society and through our government, take away choice from people in all aspects of life. Im personally sick of it. |
Schools need to stop endorsing the obesity epidemic. Period.
Go read Greg Christer's "Fat Land" and then we can have an intelligent debate. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Sadly the government seems to keep trying to be our second parent from cradle to grave and increasingly so. Im sick of the government treating all of society as if it were 10 years old. |
It's all part of our society's denial of responsibility.
People don't want to have to think for themselves or heaven forbid, actually have to do something about it; they want the government to fix it for them and cry when they don't.
It all goes back to the way we were molded in the world of 'school'.
You don't think for yourself and don't fail! OMG! If you fail, you're a failure.
Those rap singers on TV? They were instant successes you know.
So what do people do? Nothing.
Why? Because they're not even willing to try and make a change for fear of what others will say if they shouldn't make it.
So let's just let others run our life and that's the irony of the whole situation.
They're not steering thier own ship and then complain when they don't like where they end up...
:rolleyes:
P.S. go vote.... ;) |
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| rabbitjoker |
I heard some whiney 16 y/o girl on the radio today who was a part of a "student action group" against having soda machines in the school because of the "subversive branding" that the machines bathe the students in...
The whole time I was thinking: God girl! Don't you have something better to do with your time? When I was 16 I was chasin' tail, playing football and causin' ruckas...
Mind boggling... She must have socialist, union-member parents... ;) (j/k)... |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Sadly the government seems to keep trying to be our second parent from cradle to grave and increasingly so. Im sick of the government treating all of society as if it were 10 years old. |
it's an endless debate...periodic gov't intervention vs. 100% free choice.
The fact of the matter is that malnutrition and obesity have been proven to lead to dramatically increased chances of many diseases...I have a real problem that our healthcare system is burdened because of the stupidity or ignorance of so many people. You want to smoke a pack a day or eat like an American? great, sign a waiver relinquishing your free healthcare, lol...yes, I'm being sarcastic...but I do think that health agencies do need to take a proactive role. Replacing pop machines with water, juice, etc isn't such a bad thing.
if the gov't didn't take similar actions, we'd have an obesity epidemic like our southern neighbours... |
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| striptease4me |
I think what the government is trying to do is good. I think it is too little to late for all those people already affected by obiesity and its health probelms.
I don't think people realize how bad this epidemic really is. Eventually inactivity and extreme over eating can lead to type 2 diabetes and if left untreated SERIOUS complications can occur.
Trust me this is something the government needs to step in and at least try and prevent the next generation from having to go through. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Here's the deal. If kids want pop and junk food they will just go next door to get it. |
you keep saying this.
how exactly does a kid 'go next door'. i wasn't allowed to leave the classroom for lunch eating until grade 9. do kids in toronto roam the streets at lunch? |
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| Resnick |
clearly the problem is food here, the government should intervene, and randomly torch supermarkets...damnit supermarkets selling us deadly food
but seriously, for ppl saying 'oh we need the money, so lets put in something healthy' well ur gonna lose a lot of money that way,, youre not gonna get even close to the amount of sales you had w junk stuff |
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| starsearcher |
So?
Smoking kills and everyone knows it and yet how many people smoke...:happy2:
Schools by the way aren't endorsing obesity...often they get sponsorship deals and it's their only way to survive in our crappy system...
In any case IMO it's the choises you make in life, just like anything else |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ericF
Yes it could be bad parenting, but it could also be attributed to other issues. One of them .... branding!!!
I don't think we should totally remove pop machines from schools because our school system needs the added revenue to run extra curricular events. When I was in high school we had a contract with Coca Cola and our pop machines made our student council over 10 000 a year. These monies were used to buy new school uniforms, to send students on conferences, etc. So in my opinion they should remain within the school, but these machines should offer healthier choices (ie., water, juice, gatorade, etc). |
CHOICE is the key word here.
As for branding.... for god sakes whats next, banning anyone under 18 from watching tv commercials? Where does it end?? What an insult to the intelligence of anyone under 19. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Schools need to stop endorsing the obesity epidemic. Period.
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This is worth repeating. lol
Schools have more social responsibility than, say, Nike Canada or Coca Cola does. A corporation's intention is to sell product/reap profit. As is the case with coke/McDonalds/etc, they have no problem targeting an audience that (for the most part) does not know enough about the consequences of thier choices to know the difference. Not only do they endorse obesity and unhealthy food choices, they blatantly encourage it through advertising.
Schools, however, don't need to do this. They are being targeted by corporations because of their huge influence on and access to the market. (kids) It's time for them to stand up to these corporations and tell them they won't sacrifice the health of children for money. |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
This is worth repeating. lol
Schools have more social responsibility than, say, Nike Canada or Coca Cola does. A corporation's intention is to sell product/reap profit. As is the case with coke/McDonalds/etc, they have no problem targeting an audience that (for the most part) does not know enough about the consequences of thier choices to know the difference. Not only do they endorse obesity and unhealthy food choices, they blatantly encourage it through advertising.
Schools, however, don't need to do this. They are being targeted by corporations because of their huge influence on and access to the market. (kids) It's time for them to stand up to these corporations and tell them they won't sacrifice the health of children for money. |
Look at my comment above ^^
It's not the schools we should be blaming...
Nobody forces you to buy coke/pepsi/or whatever anyways...they sell water too...like I said...it's the choises you make...nobody twists your arm |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
This is worth repeating. lol
Schools have more social responsibility than, say, Nike Canada or Coca Cola does. A corporation's intention is to sell product/reap profit. As is the case with coke/McDonalds/etc, they have no problem targeting an audience that (for the most part) does not know enough about the consequences of thier choices to know the difference. Not only do they endorse obesity and unhealthy food choices, they blatantly encourage it through advertising.
Schools, however, don't need to do this. They are being targeted by corporations because of their huge influence on and access to the market. (kids) It's time for them to stand up to these corporations and tell them they won't sacrifice the health of children for money. |
BIG DEAL! So then they walk down the street and see a Pepsi billboard. Turn on tv and watch a pepsi commercial. Meanwhile the schools are missing out on funding for gym equipment which could actually be worthwhile. If we want to cut down on obesity maybe we should offer more choices such as public transportation and sports programmes. So a corperation wants to make money... OH THE HORRORS!!! Lets take their money and put it to good use. |
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