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Soccer is really dying , stupid rules are killing it (pg. 4)
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th0m
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Originally posted by paranoik0
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+1 for the reasons why i don't like american culture in general


Well, I was there for a year for college, and had the best time of my life.

There are some weird things in their culture, but hey, there are a lot of weird things about the Dutch culture too :D

Either way, didn't want to initiate a flamewar against Americans or their sports. (Personally I don't even like soccer, except the European n World Cup. Basketball is my game :D)
evil_bastard
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Originally posted by th0m

When I was in the States I saw a friendly match on ESPN2 between my team (Netherlands) and the US, and they were constantly showing brandnames in the corner of the screen and the commentators were saying "This part of the game has been brought to you by ". Or something like "We thank our sponsors that we can show this match without interruptions."


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Xavier
A NORTH AMERICAN MATCH SUMMARY OF THE CLASSIC LIVERPOOL VS NEWCASTLE 4-3 MATCH
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A four-three powerplay from Team LFC saw Newcastle bested and the Liverbirds elevated by 3 points in the premier league stat table this week.
Stanley Collymore's 15 yard cross field-play upfielded for Robert Fowler to put through the scorebag on his head before many of the anfield red stars fans had finished their pre match chilli cheese fries.

David James's blanking left Newcastle facing a negative score-stat scenario and a possible close-out on the road.

It's a score levelage scenario!

Ferdinand , rostering for 'general' Rob Lee, performed big when offensive hitman Asprilla created a net-shot opportunity early in the first quarter.

Now it was the Newcastle defense performing hang-tough with hardman Ginola toughing out McManaman though a non-call with 12.14 on the game-clock which could have led to a card red ejection.

Ginola stayed on the field of play however and found net space to make it 1-2 and had the scouse star's fans choking on their hot dogs.

Field player Ginola now has 323 out-field minutes this semester, a raise of 71 on this semester at premier soccer '94.

McManaman then saw a number of long range field plays go amiss while Fowler strikage stats were not helped when he failed to find nettage 8 metres into the goal-strike area.

This awesome kick-fest stayed at 1-2 during the line out break time and so the second period started with with spunky team Liverpool facing a zip points scenario.

Early in the first quarter of the second period 'general' Rob Lee hit into the shot-zone, forcing David James to blank once more.

Veteran coachman Roy Evans then placed two cornermen in the net-box to negate Newcastle's cross field-play upfielded efforts.

It's a score levelage scenario again!

Star offensive lineman Robert Fowler finds his net form and snatches the equaliser in his sophomore semester and that will be another goal stoppage!

Soon however, Asprillia, whose face is the most-sported pin in tournament merchandising stat-history this semester, lofted a high field ball way over the goal keep zone leaving David James with no chance to defend the goal bag.

Redknapp, leader of the team LFC on converted set-plays, tried from range but did not improve on his negative score-stat scenario.

Liverpool were now facing a 2-3 reverse and team red's Razor Ruddock added to his rap sheet when he was sin-binned for stud-checking on net-shooter Asprilla. Boy that was a big defensive hit!

It's a score levelage scenario again!

Team LFC however found a power-strike from Collymore and, deep into injury stoppage zone Collymore finds the shot-zone once
more to give team LFC all 3 points.

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paranoik0
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Originally posted by Xavier
Field player Ginola now has 323 out-field minutes this semester, a raise of 71 on this semester at premier soccer '94.


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The Darklord
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Originally posted by Xavier
A NORTH AMERICAN MATCH SUMMARY OF THE CLASSIC LIVERPOOL VS NEWCASTLE 4-3 MATCH
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Oh dear... and I still wonder how they beat us in WC'02... :nervous:
evil_bastard
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Dj Smitty20
Don't lump all us North Americans into one lot...we Canadians just like our hockey and couldn't give a e about the rest!:D

But I agree about Americans...I remember WC 94...they wanted to split the games into 4 quarters...WTF? I pray that football never gets big there...they'll bloody ruin it!

The NBA, NFL..bah..i do like baseball though.:eek:
phenn
I believe the scoring ratio in "gridiron" or American football, is better than that of soccer. I would say in an average game the winning team probably scores 3 or 4 touchdowns, plus however many field goals... which I think is about right. Exciting and meaningful without being boring.

Also, in American football there are never any lulls in the game. Sure each play probably lasts 5-10 seconds, but the game is played at a dead sprint every time. It has much of the appeal of rugby, but it is a much faster game. And don't give me any crap about the pads, those things just make the players able to hit as hard as humanly possible, and harder than they could in a rugby match because they would simply break their collarbone.

The game has speed, power, tons of passion, skill in jukes, one-handed catches, and the act of accurately throwing a ball... It has everything. The only thing it lacks is flow, but really the stoppage in between are only enough for the players to catch their breath, and they only add to the tension. Comparing the pace of American football to that of baseball is just ludicrous.

On a side note, soccer comes in a close #2 for my favorite sports to watch, but American football does come in #1.
Xavier
just imagine your a defender, and the ball has beaten the keeper and its comin at 200km/h, should clear it off the line with your head?

Like someone previously mentioned touchdowns are devalued because there are many of them, a goal is more rare, thus creating that roar and jubilation be it the goal to make it 1-0 or the equaliser for eg 1-1 or "tied" and "It's a score levelage scenario" like you people call it.

The feeling of seeing your team miss "sitters" and seeing the ball hit the post and crossbar, goal line clearances creates the "oooooooooooooooooooh" feeling. Having penalty decisions turned down or granted invites boos & yesss.
FabioCannavaro
After living in America for the past 5 years I have come to realize the following. The game is mostly supported by the immigrants from S. America. 75% of the fans at the MLS which is about 400 people a match are hispanic. Thus meaning that if MLS and football I mean soccer gets big in America it would just be a hispanic type league. There even is a Mexican team coming into MLS next year.

I dispise it when I hear of the "casual American soccer fan". How can you be casual about something. You either have knowledge about it or you do not. Here most people know 4 things: Beckham, Pele, Adu and MLS league.

The youth system in America is very good. There is a strong youth program for kids and it continues up to university. Although most of them are tought poor skills and do not have a knowledge of the sport. If America was serious they would have the MLS clubs create Youth acadamies and have more experience coaches teach the young ones about the game. If America could get a system in which they take the top 20 7 year old kids in their clubs region and put them into a youth acadamy with a club then they might be able to produce their own Freddy Adu(not some immigrant).

Also after living hear American football is hard to resist to watch since it is everywhere(compare it to football in Europe). It is the biggest deal in high school and saturday and sunday it is on the television from 11AM to midnight. They also have different version of it one where to stop the player you need to grab a flag from his waist::haha:. Overall American football is crap and does not compare to football. Americans have no knowledge of the real football which means they can not understand why it is the biggest sport in the world. They think that their sports should be the most popular and have a bad approach to new ideas which is why they would say a sport like American football or baseball is better. Some people may think my views are odd but this is the way I see it.

Plastick
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Originally posted by Xavier
It's a score levelage scenario again!

Field player Ginola now has 323 out-field minutes this semester, a raise of 71 on this semester at premier soccer '94.


HILARIOUS
paranoik0
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Originally posted by FabioCannavaro
The youth system in America is very good. There is a strong youth program for kids and it continues up to university. Although most of them are tought poor skills and do not have a knowledge of the sport. If America was serious they would have the MLS clubs create Youth acadamies and have more experience coaches teach the young ones about the game. If America could get a system in which they take the top 20 7 year old kids in their clubs region and put them into a youth acadamy with a club then they might be able to produce their own Freddy Adu(not some immigrant).


i think if MLS was a really strong league and was popular in america, kids would develop better. it's all about the "examples" and watching the top players every sunday :p
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