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MK-S - Torn (pg. 3)
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| MK-S |
DJ_Elyot: To answer your questions, yes they are sines, and yes I'm the same MK-S :) The reason I tried the switching was purely experimetnal - what you say is true, I'm not sure it works 100%.
thanks alot for the comments! |
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| Shepless |
Hmmmm, im not too sure on this one mate...
I like to see people experiment, and this has turned out good production wise. However, as Mr M. said - there isnt really a main hook as such, i'm sure if you added a subtle piano it would really finish the track off.
Anyways, I like what you've done with the mixture of 4 on the floor and breaks, savvy!
Shep |
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| Sean Walsh |
I really like the feel of this tune and the production quality is obviously excellent. My only qualm is with the breaks; as Mr. Mystery said it could definitely use a few more unconventional elements and perc sounds to it. That said, the breaks are still 10x better than most breakbeat sections of trance tunes that I hear which are just generic crap, hehe.
This track has a very laidback, chilling feel to it, and since that was your ambition you've done an excellent job. Nice to see you posting again. |
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| montana |
| mint stuff there mate, cheers for this one |
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| revelx |
Hi mate,
Sounding very cool, definatly start of set material. Im sure ASOT will have this one off you (haha!). Regarding the breakbeat, the kick roll is slightly off i think, it could be positioned a bit better i think. But really thats the only grumble i have about this, levels are quality and synths are really nice.
Top stuff
George |
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| Yaz |
| I'm liking the chilled vibes on this one - certainly not a peak-time trancer but there's no faulting the awesome production behind it. Great work :) |
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| Luke Terry |
great tune, nothin bad to say, sounds like it could be a great opener :)
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| paranoik0 |
| great production, on repeat over here |
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | Originally posted by MK-S
DJ_Elyot: To answer your questions, yes they are sines, and yes I'm the same MK-S :) The reason I tried the switching was purely experimetnal - what you say is true, I'm not sure it works 100%.
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Well I do think one thing that DJs struggle with are the transitions between breaks and 4/4 kicks. It's often tough to mix between a break track and a non-breaks track without the drums sounding terrible during the transition... at least as a producer, you can make it sound good. The transitions themselves are not bad... I just think it's unnatural for the human brain to be listening to one beat and then all of a sudden have it change... and change back... and keep changing. I think the changes create tension/conflict that distract from the tune... I think one of the reasons that trance is so effective is the pulsating, repetitive rhythm... you just lose yourself in it, and a 4/4 kick is by far the easiest beat to dance to.
It's probably made even tougher since you don't have a catchy main hook for the listener to get lost in.
I still love this track. Congratz for having the courage to experiment. |
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| JayD |
Nice tune here.
Glad to see your trying something different.
JaY |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
Well I do think one thing that DJs struggle with are the transitions between breaks and 4/4 kicks. It's often tough to mix between a break track and a non-breaks track without the drums sounding terrible during the transition... at least as a producer, you can make it sound good. The transitions themselves are not bad... I just think it's unnatural for the human brain to be listening to one beat and then all of a sudden have it change... and change back... and keep changing. I think the changes create tension/conflict that distract from the tune... I think one of the reasons that trance is so effective is the pulsating, repetitive rhythm... you just lose yourself in it, and a 4/4 kick is by far the easiest beat to dance to.
It's probably made even tougher since you don't have a catchy main hook for the listener to get lost in.
I still love this track. Congratz for having the courage to experiment. |
If all tracks were built out of the same formula it would get pretty boring... |
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| DJ_Elyot |
Just cuz 90% of trance has a 4/4 kick doesn't mean it's boring.
I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with what MK-S has done... I'm just saying that every decision a producer makes effects the emotion generated by the song. When the anticipation of what's to come in a song is broken, it creates a conflict in the brain of the listener. This can be good or bad.
For example, if anybody here possesses the classic CD Summerbreeze by DJ Tiesto, listen to the second song, or about 10:08 into the whole set... u can hear Tiesto totally screwing with the volumes in this remix of BT - Dreaming. Obviously, it would could create some pandemoium on the dance floor, but that is of course caused by the conflict create by the breaking of the trance. The brain becomes used to hearing one beat/melody and a gradual build-up... then suddenly it gets screwed with and it's like a splash of water to the face... you suddenly become aware of the music and lose the effect of being trancified in it.
A changing of the rhythmic pattern creates a similar effect. It's distracting in that it wakes your brain out of its trance... and if done too much, it can hide the underlying beauty of the melody. And in a chillout tune, I think it does more harm than good to keep switching back and forth... just an opinion.
My apologies to MK-S... I don't mean to tear your track up, because it truly is a beautiful piece of music. Just trying to explain a little musical psychology (which is a good thing to know when you're composing.) |
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