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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/01/co...s.ap/index.html
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Bill Cosby went off on another tirade against the black community Thursday, telling a room full of activists that black children are running around not knowing how to read or write and "going nowhere."
He also had harsh words for struggling black men, telling them: "Stop beating up your women because you can't find a job."
Cosby made headlines in May when he upbraided some poor blacks for their grammar and accused them of squandering opportunities the civil rights movement gave them.
He shot back Thursday, saying his detractors were trying in vain to hide the black community's "dirty laundry."
"Let me tell you something, your dirty laundry gets out of school at 2:30 every day, it's cursing and calling each other n------ as they're walking up and down the street," Cosby said during an appearance at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition & Citizenship Education Fund's annual conference.
"They think they're hip," the entertainer said. "They can't read; they can't write. They're laughing and giggling, and they're going nowhere."
In his remarks in May at a commemoration of the anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education desegregation decision, Cosby denounced some blacks' grammar and said those who commit crimes and wind up behind bars "are not political prisoners."
"I can't even talk the way these people talk, 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk," Cosby said then. "And then I heard the father talk ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth."
Cosby elaborated Thursday on his previous comments in a talk interrupted several times by applause. He castigated some blacks, saying that they cannot simply blame whites for problems such as teen pregnancy and high school dropout rates.
"For me there is a time ... when we have to turn the mirror around," he said. "Because for me it is almost analgesic to talk about what the white man is doing against us. And it keeps a person frozen in their seat, it keeps you frozen in your hole you're sitting in."
Cosby lamented that the racial slurs once used by those who lynched blacks are now a favorite expression of black children. And he blamed parents.
"When you put on a record and that record is yelling 'n----- this and n----- that' and you've got your little 6-year-old, 7-year-old sitting in the back seat of the car, those children hear that," he said.
He also condemned black men who missed out on opportunities and are now angry about their lives.
"You've got to stop beating up your women because you can't find a job, because you didn't want to get an education and now you're (earning) minimum wage," Cosby said. "You should have thought more of yourself when you were in high school, when you had an opportunity."
Cosby appeared Thursday with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, founder and president of the education fund, who defended the entertainer's statements.
"Bill is saying let's fight the right fight, let's level the playing field," Jackson said. "Drunk people can't do that. Illiterate people can't do that."
Cosby also said many young people are failing to honor the sacrifices made by those who struggled and died during the civil rights movement.
"Dogs, water hoses that tear the bark off trees, Emmett Till," he said, naming the black youth who was tortured and murdered in Mississippi in 1955, allegedly for whistling at a white woman. "And you're going to tell me you're going to drop out of school? You're going to tell me you're going to steal from a store?"
Cosby also said he wasn't concerned that some whites took his comments and turned them "against our people."
"Let them talk," he said. |
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| Yoepus |
| the modern black culture in the USA reminds me very much of modern Arab culture. They put the emphasis on the wrong virtues. |
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| TuanAnh213 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
the modern black culture in the USA reminds me very much of modern Arab culture. They put the emphasis on the wrong virtues. |
what are the wrong virtues of modern black culture? |
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| biznology |
i agree with Cosby in part - yet its not always that simple...
Arabs are another deal...
He is right on so many terms, but belittling his situation isnt likely to help. Bill Cosby hasnt and has never been considered part of the true environment. The Cosby Show has always been considered to be a copout to white culture and avoided the real problems inherent in true black culture. They arent 'in you face problems' but you cannot ignore them. Bill is right but not so realistic. Belittling people is not always the best response| |
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| GODLESSCOMMIE |
Well like the Arab culture they got a fair number of losers terrorists-thug/'gansta' I do whatever I want to whomever I want becuase I'm the king of this domain.(IRC chan ops often fall into this catagory, but they are just to weak to use muscles in real life)
dragging down peoples opinions of there culture(justifiable to a degree).
However black (cultural) ideal virtues would be best expressed by there pimp, and there old. Typically there women(learn this first and get the males in line) -- being chilled out/happy and getting women, and not being drudged down into the stupid male games(which blacks seem to be WAY to into in general that and demanding that blacks act like blacks and not to be an oreo (black on the outside white on the inside(someone I knew got that all the time once we started going to jr hi)).
mmm thats more like people in general... but blacks tend to carry a chip on there shoulder something fierce, if I'm ever in a bad mood around one they seem to think I'm being racist etc(again justifiable to a degree), and I do have to admit I'm much more on guard around full on black strangers as they tend to be bigger s stealing/threating/destroying others properity/etc. That and there damn territoral (see the first bit about kings of a domain) an example if I goto a gas station just north east of my house (dont think its even past austin(no city tax?)) I get the wtf are you doing here white boy looks. Another time this 12 year old kid with a baseball bat keep saying 'got a dollah?' 'gimme a dollah' Mind you I just had to stare down the little punk loser to get em to go away but still its just another example. If I had to live in a ghetto I diffently would not pick a black one. Much better for example to be in a mexican one where they only care about messing with each other. Someone I know's girlfriend got 2 of her tires slashed without any reason in his driveway in such a place(I jokingly tell him to put a sign saying proud member of the NRA in his lawn).
Arabs? seems more there whole culture is like that in some places, sponsered by the state even. think most of there problems come from being losers on the global scale = people are willing to die for pride(if you listen to what bush has been trying to persuade the iraqis of recently is that you should be gaining pride through fixing your country not blowing you and your fellow countrymen up(hence the army guys training people how to build things/ training iraqi police etc(guess this also fits in why the prision thing was such a huge deal to them)))
oh hadn't heard about that cosby thing, but my first impression is he's telling people to stop being losers(kinda why asians are 'blended in' 'assimilated' much better is that there viewed as winners(guess thats why americans are looking at them(japs esp) rather then europe alot of the time now))
(ug its early think I finally got all the huge grammer errors outta this) |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | | However black (cultural) ideal virtues would be best expressed by there pimp, and there old. Typically there women |
I wonder what Bill Crosby would have to say about YOUR grammar...! :rolleyes: |
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| GODLESSCOMMIE |
| did I claim to be good at grammer(or the whole english language in general)?, If your going to argue with me use something other then insults or be ignored. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by TuanAnh213
what are the wrong virtues of modern black culture? |
How about 20" chrome spinners on your Escalizzade and wearing all of your bling on your teeth for starters?
However, I'm an avid fan of Bubb Rubb. Woooo Wooooo!:cool: |
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| GODLESSCOMMIE |
Thinking about this, I agree with the push to get rid of affirmative action as it just makes people think of blacks as a bunch of incompetent beggers(losers), generating huge amounts of resentment. No I don't agree with that overall. Though when you see people lacking basically all the skills required, getting 'free' rides to goto college for a year to smoke pot party and dropout irks people a bit for each case of it they see. Though there are victors of the program, I had 2 black kids in the class I was taing(is that a word?) for, compsci at NIU(nothernillinois), that would qualify as such. mmm guess that begs the question is it worth it? Mind you see alot of other kids also doing the same thing, but there wasting the opportunity thier(is this the right there?) parents gave them. I was going to use the Donovan McNabb as an example of this, but the more I search on google the more it fits in with black paranoia. Anyhow overall I feel it did have its place, but that was long ago. I like to think that meat is pretty much meat(though I do enjoy looking at certian cuts moreso then others), its culture that matters.
(dictionary.com just made another nickel off me...) |
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| surferfb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
However, I'm an avid fan of Bubb Rubb. Woooo Wooooo!:cool: |
that's only in the morning. you're supposed to be up cooking breakfast for somebody, so it's like an alarm clock.
wooooooooo woooooooo
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| BadBadNeil |
Cosby isn't bashing blacks, he is just speaking the truth. I'm sick of the we don't get equal treatment crap, yet they make an effort in school to not care, to be hypocritial about calling people ******s, to blame white people for their problems, to consciously not speak english correct because its "cool", to have role models in faceless people such as rappers and drug dealers, to further separate races by making every problem a race issue, to take advantage of free college because of race (which they shouldnt have in the first place), etc.
I've seen lots of smart black people and know quite a few and they worked their asses off just like anyone else from another race and they got rewarded in kind. The black community needs to realize that hard work does equal success. In high school I remember the majority of dropouts and those in trouble were black and hispanic, even though in high school every student started off freshman year the same, yet they made an effort to not care and its a cycle.
I've lived in Savannah, GA and believe me that city is so divided racially its scary and I honestly believe that if the poor black people in that town worked hard in school, got a scholarship to college and went to any profession they wanted they would be successful yet day after day in town all you hear is about blacks killing blacks, drugdealing, crimes, stealing from the white students in town and you could see them hanging out around town trying to act hard to impress their friends.
Yes I have strong opinions on this because my family is hispanic and they worked their asses off to be successful and I've never hear them bitch once about white people holding them down. They learned, worked hard, and succeeded and that is all people need to do. |
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| osuracnaes |
I can't stand how some of these people claim they're entitled to certain things. But when you look at it, there still are some prejudiced people, and minorites really don't have equal opportunities. One of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of things.
Example: my college has this policy of hiring a certain number of minority businesses. There are many instances where they choose an unqualified minority business over a qualified non-minority business only to meet their quota.
I'm not racist. I'm part of a minority - I know how it feels to be hated *cough*bush*cough*. Some of my better friends are black. It's just the people Cosby are talking about who give blacks a bad name - and there are plenty in Cleveland, OH. Most campus security reports describe suspects as black - the careless, reckless drivers are usually black - the people who ask me for money are black.
I just think it's kind of sad. |
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