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| DJ Cinos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
yeh, they had this really unique sound (for the time), but i have no idea what they were really trying to achieve as artists... i think they may just have been total pisstakers, a bit like the daft punk of the 80's
but technically they didnt really push any boundaries. |
My thought is that they are (were?) obsessed with the "man-machine" idea, and tried making music that sounds like that union. Tried to spread the electronic sound. And that they did. |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Cinos
My thought is that they are (were?) obsessed with the "man-machine" idea, and tried making music that sounds like that union. Tried to spread the electronic sound. And that they did. |
yeh maybe ... id like to know what they are doing now though? i think i read an interview a few years back with one of the members and he was saying that the whole thing was just a joke : S |
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| DJ Cinos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
yeh maybe ... id like to know what they are doing now though? |
They're still making music (a lot worse than they were back then), and one of them has a solo project. |
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| DJDREO |
| quote: | Originally posted by aspergian
It annoys me too, especially if they haven't waded into further waters. And heck, there's always more to learn. I'm constantly getting new info and viewpoints left and right, up and down, and in alternate dimensions here. ;) |
That post explains it all. |
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| Nite-Mer |
| I get way more annoyed by the fact that he's rated #1 dj in the world, than people thinking he's a good producer. He's ten times the producer than dj. Even PVD is overrated. I don't know how these guys, making the big bucks, get away with it. I would challenge either of them to a spin off playing the same records. Unfortunately, that's what really separates them, their tracks. |
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| TJM |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Cinos
I wonder if there's any way to disillusion them... |
Take them to actually see Tiesto live. |
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| josh4 |
You could have just said "I agree."
| quote: | Originally posted by aspergian
It annoys me too, especially if they haven't waded into further waters. And heck, there's always more to learn. I'm constantly getting new info and viewpoints left and right, up and down, and in alternate dimensions here. ;)
Now, it's totally valid to say "DJ so-and-so is my favorite (of the music I've heard so far)" but bolder statements would likely encompass a leap-before-you-look situation. If an enthusiastic listener has specific reasons with merits that can be pointed out, I smile upon that -- but universal superlatives in the world of music are hokum bunk because we find personal truths in our unique tastes. Certainly an artist may be the top selling, or hold some undisputed record in the Guinness Book, but there is no end-all. The train keeps moving.
One can always encourage curiosity by namedropping esteemed producers throughout the ages for the fun of it -- for example, if someone is well-acquainted with the big trance of today but has big question marks popping over her or his head at the mention of Kraftwerk, Oliver Lieb, 808 State, or Tangerine Dream, then perhaps they deserve a suitable sonic adventure to discover more music they will enjoy. Electronic music's all about looking forward to the future while respecting our technological roots too.
No need to be sorry at all. :) |
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| Mr.Mystery |
It is called an opinion.
We all have them. They're all different.
Live with them. |
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| saiyAn |
If your music sounds the way you want it to and delivers the desired effect on your listeners,you're a great producer.
If you can hype up the crowd,keep em dancing and loving your set,you're a great dj.
Everything else is irrelavant.
In my opinion. |
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| Nite-Mer |
| quote: | Originally posted by saiyAn
If your music sounds the way you want it to and delivers the desired effect on your listeners,you're a great producer.
If you can hype up the crowd,keep em dancing and loving your set,you're a great dj.
Everything else is irrelavant.
In my opinion. |
If you are content with a dj playing to an unintelligible audience (which most are, at least 75% at virtually any show) and mixing terribly, but playing good tracks and keeping the crowd going, then Tiesto is great. I just hold dj's to a higher standard, because I hold myself to a higher standard. I can't tell you how many times I've been disappointed by highly ranked trance dj's since I started getting good at spinning. Most of the proggy guys are a lot more consistent at their mixing, or, at least, their beat matching. I want more than just record selection. Really the only guys I've been satisfied watching, playing trance lately, were Armin and Ferry. Tiesto and Van Dyk are highly overrated. |
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| mndeg |
| quote: | Originally posted by aspergian
It annoys me too, especially if they haven't waded into further waters. And heck, there's always more to learn. I'm constantly getting new info and viewpoints left and right, up and down, and in alternate dimensions here. ;)
Now, it's totally valid to say "DJ so-and-so is my favorite (of the music I've heard so far)" but bolder statements would likely encompass a leap-before-you-look situation. If an enthusiastic listener has specific reasons with merits that can be pointed out, I smile upon that -- but universal superlatives in the world of music are hokum bunk because we find personal truths in our unique tastes. Certainly an artist may be the top selling, or hold some undisputed record in the Guinness Book, but there is no end-all. The train keeps moving.
One can always encourage curiosity by namedropping esteemed producers throughout the ages for the fun of it -- for example, if someone is well-acquainted with the big trance of today but has big question marks popping over her or his head at the mention of Kraftwerk, Oliver Lieb, 808 State, or Tangerine Dream, then perhaps they deserve a suitable sonic adventure to discover more music they will enjoy. Electronic music's all about looking forward to the future while respecting our technological roots too.
No need to be sorry at all. :) |
stop using big words |
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nite-Mer
If you are content with a dj playing to an unintelligible audience (which most are, at least 75% at virtually any show) and mixing terribly, but playing good tracks and keeping the crowd going, then Tiesto is great. I just hold dj's to a higher standard, because I hold myself to a higher standard. I can't tell you how many times I've been disappointed by highly ranked trance dj's since I started getting good at spinning. Most of the proggy guys are a lot more consistent at their mixing, or, at least, their beat matching. I want more than just record selection. Really the only guys I've been satisfied watching, playing trance lately, were Armin and Ferry. Tiesto and Van Dyk are highly overrated. |
Think about it though, what is a DJ's job? To spin records at a club/party and entertain the crowd. So if someone is a 'great' DJ, then they have to be great at selecting tracks and setting a mood at a club or show. Who gives a squirt of piss how good a technical mixer they are? If a DJ plays a great track and then follows it up with another great track who cares if he botches the transition between the tracks? He is still playing great tunes which is what the crowd is there for. Maybe 1% of the audience would pick up on the fact that the guy botched the fade. I'd take that over some guy who is the best technical mixer in the world but can't pick a track worth a crap and can't feel the mood of the crowd.
Thats the way it is in the entertainment business. The people referred to as 'great' are not often the best at the technical aspects of their field, but they do know how to feel the crowd and put on a good show. |
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