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Theresa
Ok, I just had a very weird experience.

My ex's best friend (or old best friend... I dunno if they are best friends anymore,) called me tonight (not once, but FIVE times). Now, this is weird in itself, as I have never really spoken to him over the phone before, and we were never very close. My ex and I would hang out with him and my girlfriends (probably like 3-4 times in the last three years), but nothing ever more than that. I did however, see him at the bar last weekend, and we chatted a bit.

Anyways, he calls me tonight at 3 in the morning, and I start talking to him, and I ask if he is ok, because I can tell there is something not quite normal about him, (other than the fact that he has called me at 3AM). He goes on to tell me that he is "ed up" and he has had "too much to drink".

Well, I have had my fair share of drugged up moments, so I can tell that he is not only drunk, and that something else is going on. So I ask, "what else have you done tonight?" And he replies, "nothing, I'm good." So I ask again, "did you just drink? Or did you take something else?"

"Well, I had a little MDMA." :eek:

So I have someone tripping on ecstasy on the other line, and it sounds like he isn't having a very good trip.

I start talking to him, trying to make him feel better, and I get him laughing. I tell him some sweet stories, and I even start talking about how great kittens are. (I know what it is like to have a bad trip!!)

He isn't talking about anything bad, but I can read people, and I can get vibes from things. I can tell that he isn't thinking positively, and that he may be harmful to himself. I ask him where he is, and he tells me that he is on a veranda. I ask him if it is high up, and he says yes. I ask him to please go inside for me, and go in a room with other people. He agrees to go inside, but he wants to be alone... ?

Anyway, we continue talking, and a few minutes later, I can hear wind. I ask him again "where are you? Are you outside?" He says he is, and I again ask him to go back in, because "it'll make me feel better."

I am not feeling comfortable with him being someplace he can jump off of. He is not thinking properly, and I know that he has some issues going on in his life.

As if this isn't weird enough, he goes on to tell me how much he loves me, and how great I am. I reply by saying that he is just as great and that I love him as a friend. I realize this is a "love drug", so I comply, and try to keep him feeling good.

Then I decide that, even though I wouldn't know from experience, as I have never done E, I will play music for him that will make him trip nicely. I know people on E like to listen to hyper music, especially EDM (and I have loads of that).

I crank my speakers and play "Basement Jaxx - Stop for love", I listen into the ear piece, and I can hear wind again! I am freaked out because I am worried that he is going to attempt suicide, and I really wouldn't want him doing that. I ask him to go back inside, and he does. At this point, one of his friends decides to take him for a walk to a big city park (they brought me along via phone.)

His friend ends up passing out hanging off a swing, and the guy I am talking to is grasping onto my voice as a sign of comfort and safety. He wants me to keep talking, even if it makes no sense. So I talk for a while about happy things, and good memories. I get him laughing again, which is great, and I ask if he wants to hear more music.

He says "yes"...
So I try to play something a little more fun and happy, "Scooter - Ramp", and then ironically, I play "Darude - Ecstasy"

He enjoys the last two thouroughly, and he seems to be doing better. I get him to wake the guy that he is with, and tell him to get home and drink some water, and then crawl into bed. He doesn't want to drink water or go to bed because both are "very bad".

Seems like there is no convincing him, so I just continue to say pleasant things, and laugh about nothing. After 2 and a half hours of talking, he decides to hang around the crowd of people at the house he is at, and that he is ok to let me go.

Through out the conversation he asked me multiple times if he could call me, and if he could have my number. (Ummmm, you called me, so I am pretty sure you have my number :tongue2) He told me he loved me several times, and he continuously apologized for bothering me, which I assured him was not a bother at all.

I am not sure how to take this to be honest. I am definitely not going to read into him "loving" me since that was the drugs talking, but what happens if he calls me again? Sober? Drunk? ETC?

How did I handle the situation? Should I tell him I am worried about him? I don't think I really have the right considering I hardly know him.

BLAH... it was weird!

I need to crawl into bed now :o ME SO TIRED!

P.S. Thanks for reading all of this :)
twisted420
It really depends...
You sure he wasnt just saying that as a friendly thing..like you know, "aww! thanks! I love you!"
How did he say it?


Ive also heard of people actually supposidly falling in love from small meetings, like at raves etc...
Mabye he thought he actually felt something since you wherehelping him and staying on the line. Mabye he was just too ed up to word it very well..he was just complimenting you, but it came out weird.

You know, Im sure if he's sober if/when he calls again, he will probably say sorry and thank you. I mean if he actually feels there was some kind of connection between you two..then you gotta just tell him the situation, and how you were just helping him.

There is really nothing you can do if he calls back messed up again. You can eather choose to help him or you can just let him go. I mean if he is supposidly ed everytime he calls in the future, I would say there would be something wrong with him, or he is ing you around. Sounds like a weird night :sadgreen:
:)




Leon
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i dunno bout the 'love' part since like you said E makes a person all lovey dovey.

however, I think you should have a talk with him about his drug use. Calling you was obviously a cry for help. It may have been a one off thing, but you should make sure there isn't soem deeper problem. You don't have to go out of your way to help him,and don't feel like you owe hima anything but at least make sure he's ok and refer him to someone who can help if you can't or don't feel comfortable.

We all need a lil help sometimes.

I've heard of people going off the deep end, and the usual symptom if they're doing E is a string of bad trips, so even if you don't want to get involved, get in touch with someone who can help him.
GelatinPufF
It was the drugs. And chances are that when you ask him what happened tommorow, he'll have forgoten 2/3rds of what happened, or atleast be very apologetic about what he said to you. I know that's how I always am:nervous:
BeatFreak
MDMA doesn't give you "bad trips". He's not going to jump off anything. It usually just makes you feel good and want to talk. It can also impair your judgement. That's probably why he called you. He probably misses you or something.
E can make you act extra lovey. He may not "love" you but probably has some feelings.
EyesOfExtasy
He was in an altered state so I wouldnt blame him much for the situtation. He was probably just looking for someone to reach out to and since he saw you at the bar the other day the though and comfort of speaking to you was fresh in his mind. It is possible he didnt like how the people he was with were acting and he was just trying to get away from them and looking for some comfort.
Ripped Bag
Obviously if he is on E and made actually contacted you he either
A: Has some level of trust with you no matter how small
B: Something around him triggered a thought of you while rolling and he couldn't get you out of his head so he thought he'd call. Which he would normally not do if he was in the right state of mind.
C: Honsestly had some sort of attraction to you the times you had met but was obligated not to go through with any feelings, or was just to shy to let you know.
or
D: He was talking to someone at the party and was getting annoying to that person and the person was a mutual aquaintance and had no regard for you (considering what time it was) and decided he would let him yap your ear off instead.

Dunno..

Any of the above stated reasons would have caused me to call you if I were in his position.
xKaoSx
E doesnt make you trip that hard- unless of course its cut with something or done in conjunction with something else.

It WILL make you feel more intensely about how your current mood is.

If you take it when you're depressed or tired- it wont just make you get up and be happy- it will just amplify how you feel. If he was telling you he loved you then he probably does have some feelings for you.
Trancewave
LOL, I've done some really dumb things when I've been messed on E. I've never really had a bad trip though and it doesn't really sound like your friend is having a bad trip.

Sometimes when I get really good E I get this feeling that I just love all my friends and are so happy that they are around me at the moment. I do tell them that I love them LOL. Seems like your friend just wants to chat with you and didn't want to be alone. He's probably very thankful that you're spending the time with him. By morning he'll probably forget about it and apologize afterwards.

I've done more silly things than that. I remember on many occasions where when I got home from a rave I would go and wake up my best friend's sister up at 4 o'clock in the morning while she's sleeping as we got home, just because I needed someone to talk to and cuddle at the time :stongue: Kinda funny now that I think about it and awfully nice of her as she wasn't even annoyed with me while we cuddled and listened to me ramble on nonstop about the dumbest things at 4 in the morning LOL. Hehe, if it was me I'd probably kick the girl out of bed if I was already sleeping.

Damn, you just made me realize how nice my friend was. I'm gonna give her a call.

Trust me, when he says he loves you it means didly squat. He just wants some company at the time.
butterfly
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Originally posted by BeatFreak
MDMA doesn't give you "bad trips". He's not going to jump off anything. It usually just makes you feel good and want to talk. It can also impair your judgement. That's probably why he called you. He probably misses you or something.
E can make you act extra lovey. He may not "love" you but probably has some feelings.


i second this.

though i wouldnt consider rolling a trip at all. take some acid and you'll know what a trip is... anyway, i do think it is possible to have a bad time on e but i've never experienced anything the way he was acting. frankly i'd take it with a grain of salt. you do and say stupid when you are on e. if i were you i wouldnt have answered the phone to begin with...

Floorfiller
well theresa...just from what you have told me about this guy, and this story about last night, i think he likes you. i think the best course of action for you to take would be to first talk to him while he's sober and tell him how you felt the other night when he called you. if you felt scared for him, tell him that. tell him that he's a nice guy and you'd like to be his friend, but that he scared you the other night when he called up like that.

try to get out of him whatever it is that he feels towards you when he's sober. ask him if there is something that he wants to tell you or something because i personally think that he wants there to be something there, so you should get it out there and let him know that you either also would like that, or that you still have some things that you're dealing with and want to spend some time by yourself for a while (that's the nice way of saying no).

i guess the main thing is, make clear to him that its not ok for him to use your friendship as a way of almost bullying you into a relationship. if he does have feelings for you, its not ok for him to use suicide or any other forms of self hurt as a means of making you date him or whatever. i dunno...that is what kinda bugs me about what you make it sound like...that he has feelings for you and he is trying to put you in a tough spot kinda using your sweet personality against you because you obviously don't wanna seem him do anything stupid.

anyway, hope everything goes ok with that and i'll talk to you later this weekend hopefully.
Seventil
Forget what Jason said. Hit that !
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