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Trance is dead (pg. 5)
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| Torley Wong |
I'd like to hear more undead trance. You know, not just industrial-trance but something that works in those depressing horror-movie tonalities and pounds on the dancefloor while maintaining an edge of forboding doom and some chilling creepiness. A well-placed sample of a scream, turned into a melody, wouldn't hurt every now and then.
Really, it comes down to the individual, dontcha think? Movements include ideas that are carried along in people's heads. As long as someone's still thinking of trance, and even moreso, producing or DJing it actively, it is not dead. Perhaps undead. ;)
Ah well, controversy sells. No doubt you're familiar with "James Brown Is Dead" or "James Brown Is Alive"... so the same case might very well apply here.
(They brought disco, trance's besmirched grandpa, back from the dead, didn't they? ;) ) |
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| davepiazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pete_B
The problem is quanitity - indeed you will find many a great tune if you dig deep enough but the problem is that theres no enough of it!
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Pete,
I agree. However, is it realistic to expect numerous high quality tracks in trance to be produced each month. The question is: do you beleive there enough is enough creativity for this to happen?
I think the problem is not MP3's or record labels but the actual amount of work that is needed now to produce a classic trance work today. Becuase of the lenght it takes to make a good work, labels pressure artists or artists pressure themselves to copy "proven formulas" just to pay the bills. Thus the problem is something we can all not really grasp,time. How often where classical peice of music produced in the 17th -18th century.Was the production scatttered or definite to a period of time ? The works of the classic composeres were scattered across this entire period ( 200 yrs) . How fitting to also this pattern occur today in EDM.
its absurd to expect an producer to create something orginal and time tested in a few months, or even to be released on a yearly basis. The complexity creating that perfect melody in trance, as was the case for classical music, is indeed its achillies heal. |
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| brian |
lol @ this thread
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| Pete_B |
| quote: | Originally posted by davepiazza
Pete,
I agree. However, is it realistic to expect numerous high quality tracks in trance to be produced each month. The question is: do you beleive there enough is enough creativity for this to happen?
I think the problem is not MP3's or record labels but the actual amount of work that is needed now to produce a classic trance work today. Becuase of the lenght it takes to make a good work, labels pressure artists or artists pressure themselves to copy "proven formulas" just to pay the bills. Thus the problem is something we can all not really grasp,time. How often where classical peice of music produced in the 17th -18th century.Was the production scatttered or definite to a period of time ? The works of the classic composeres were scattered across this entire period ( 200 yrs) . How fitting to also this pattern occur today in EDM.
its absurd to expect an producer to create something orginal and time tested in a few months, or even to be released on a yearly basis. The complexity creating that perfect melody in trance, as was the case for classical music, is indeed its achillies heal. |
Perhaps you are right. But another point could be that alot of the producers who were making good stuff have now been dropped because of the labels falling.
Again, a handful of labels can't put out enough music to satisfy us all so we will have to wait until these new labels get off the ground. TRR is one to keep an eye on, I reckon by mid next year they could be putting out seriously good tracks consistently. |
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| davepiazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pete_B
Perhaps you are right. But another point could be that alot of the producers who were making good stuff have now been dropped because of the labels falling.
Again, a handful of labels can't put out enough music to satisfy us all so we will have to wait until these new labels get off the ground. TRR is one to keep an eye on, I reckon by mid next year they could be putting out seriously good tracks consistently. |
I would have to disagree. If an artists produces a quality track all he/she needs to do is just burn it to CD and send it to a DJ. If its good the DJ will play it and than the labels will be knocking on the door.
In addition to buring a cd, the producer could also just promote their music online until it get noticed as well.
In my opinion, a label is nothing more than means to sell to the work to the mass public, rather a tool to help the producers market his tunes. Because if the tune is good label or not it will get played eventually. |
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| Torley Wong |
Yup, music serves no practical purpose if it cannot be heard.
Widenet distribution from the labels facilitates this greatly, as well as DJ gigs and Internet MP3s. :D |
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| DJ Intrigue |
| Why do people still continue to debate and argue about this topic on here? I think everyone pretty much knows where they stand and where the opposing people stand as well. It's an endless discussion between the hardcore trancers who have the PvD/Armin/Tiesto names tattooed on their body and the people who don't like trance. It started out to be a good discussion, but I don't think anybody is about to back down from their views, so anything said is really just wasted air. |
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| FeelTheElements |
| I love the trance today. I don't care what you guys say how it's so cheesy and all. I really don't know what your talking about. You don't gotta go all crazy about you not enjoying the music. If you really hate all the new stuff out now, then start your own band. Call me cheesy or whatever, but I say trance lives!:toocool: |
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| Nite-Mer |
| I have to say that I believe it is harder to find a quality trance track now than it was in 97-01. Not only is it harder to be innovative as a producer, as more music has come out since, but a lot of good trance producers from ago are producing different styles now. I definitely don't think trance is dead, but I think there are a lot more good progressive and melodic progressive songs than there are trance, epic trance, and progressive trance tracks. |
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| Elyksir |
| quote: | Originally posted by Just4Fun
Trance IS DEAD!! I'm serious, all the tracks released today is just ty mongo trance. Trance peaked in 2001 and then died. Today i declare that real trance is dead and that the cheap and overkilled trance is alive! |
wrong, trance is still alive and kicking... explain that to thousands jammin to latest trance all over the world these days. :happy2:
btw.... some time ago harry choo choo romero said that house is dead, claude young said that techno is dead... explain me this.... :conf: |
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| dj_lane |
| Alot of the stuff out on Anjuna beats is owning me right now, and thats mostly trance, so i dont know whats up your ass |
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| BrownTA4Life |
| quote: | Originally posted by Just4Fun
Trance IS DEAD!! I'm serious, all the tracks released today is just ty mongo trance. Trance peaked in 2001 and then died. Today i declare that real trance is dead and that the cheap and overkilled trance is alive! |
your dead |
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