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Schools to ban "Junk Food" (pg. 2)
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
You cant force healthy food down anyone's throat and the only thing that will be acheived here is robbing the sports programmes of much needed cash. |
As the member and captain of varsity sports programs back when I was in high-school (in Oakville, just to bring it home for you) I can tell you that there are much more effective and significant ways of getting financial resources for high-school athletics.
Our school sold junk food the first year - after which the athletic council decided it was contradictory to the purpose of the council.
This forced us to look into alternative means of gaining financial support for our teams - and once we had fully explored and exploited these alternatives it ending up being worth much more than the junk food sales ever could have provided.
Any school that says they need this money to fund activities simply doesn't have the desire or will to explore and gain alternative financing. |
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| Jayx1 |
| So what about using this "alternative" financing on top of the junk food? Sorry but banning something just to make it look good without any other purpose smacks of politcial correctness. It's quite simple reasoning that kids will get what they want whether the school benefits, or whether a private business benefits. |
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| Fir3start3r |
I understand the arguement Jayx1, but the government is trying to correct an incorrect, "free" choice the people have already made. They (the people) have proven that in this instance, their decision obviously isn't the wisest considering the obesity rates in recent years.
And as rabbitjoker so eloquently put it above, we won't have to pay for other people's, "polygamous ass[es]" in the future...:haha: |
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| Jayx1 |
| So your answer is to let the government control the decision for them? (and us?). That's a scary thought. Why not just ban anything that could be detrimental to our health? And if public health care is going to be used as a tool of control then I opt for private insurance thank you very much. If freedom comes at the price of a health care premium, i'll take freedom any day of the week. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
So your answer is to let the government control the decision for them? (and us?). That's a scary thought. Why not just ban anything that could be detrimental to our health? And if public health care is going to be used as a tool of control then I opt for private insurance thank you very much. If freedom comes at the price of a health care premium, i'll take freedom any day of the week. |
Sometimes I wish that too sometimes but our Health Care System is one of Canada's holy grails.
Canada will never be that right-wing enough to try for fear of voter backlash. Hell, even the mere mention of it had the media in a frenzy...
Anyone read about the new Health Care deal that went down?
I'll have to read about it today... |
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| Jayx1 |
| Well that's my point. So since we live with socialized medicine, let's not fall into the trap of using it as a device of control. Saying "my tax dollars pay for your unhealthy habit so it should be banned" is a dangerous slippery slope that may come back to bite you in the ass one day. Why? because just about anything we do for pleasure is unhealthy in some way and we all end up paying for it through taxes. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
So your answer is to let the government control the decision for them? (and us?). That's a scary thought. Why not just ban anything that could be detrimental to our health? And if public health care is going to be used as a tool of control then I opt for private insurance thank you very much. If freedom comes at the price of a health care premium, i'll take freedom any day of the week. |
these slippery slope arguments are just not true...from banning junk food and curbing smoking it does not follow that the gov't ought to be able to ban anything that is detremental to our health.
this is a common sense issue...times change...diet is much more closely associated with disease than before and gov't and schools taking the initiative to promote health is a good thing in my books.
We complain of health care costs, insurance costs, etc...but then the gov't does something to address the SOURCE, instead of just treating the symptoms...and you complain.
free choice is not "intrinsically" good...escpecially for minors. We see limits of restricting driving, drinking, and smoking for minors...so why is this such a gross abuse of gov't power??? |
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| Jayx1 |
the thinking behind it is what is scary. "we pay taxes for their health so therefore they shouldn't do it". The more i hear people make this arguement, the more i dream of private medicare.
As for the school's junk food. You cant legally sell smokes and booze to kids. The cant just go to any store and buy them until they are 19. So whats the next step? Banning junk food everywhere to kids under 19 like cigs and booze? Until then kids will just go elsewhere to get junk food which is why this school ban is redundant and ridiculous. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
i dream of private medicare.
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Don't worry - I dream of this too. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
the thinking behind it is what is scary. "we pay taxes for their health so therefore they shouldn't do it". The more i hear people make this arguement, the more i dream of private medicare.
As for the school's junk food. You cant legally sell smokes and booze to kids. The cant just go to any store and buy them until they are 19. So whats the next step? Banning junk food everywhere to kids under 19 like cigs and booze? Until then kids will just go elsewhere to get junk food which is why this school ban is redundant and ridiculous. |
So I guess I should have ordered a Rum&Coke with my box of Oreo cookies during lunch then? :p |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Don't worry - I dream of this too. |
It's comming...as far as I've heard already :) |
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| Jayx1 |
I all for universal access (government paid) but privately delivered medicare.
The public funded, public run system is clearly not working. The private sector could deliver the same or better medical services at less cost and everyone could still have access to it. This is how it works in almost every other country in the world.
Canadian healthcare is the great canadian lie. |
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