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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Falcon-X
about 20 people refuted them albertor just did. |
No, he didn't. In fact, he failed to address them at all.
My point was (since you've obviously forgotten):
Insecurity is the most plausible explanation for possessive behavior in relationships.
No one has offered an alternative explanation at all. Instead, they've gone on and one about unrelated red herrings such as how I might "feel" in some given situations. Well guess what: "feelings" are pretty meaningless in this discussion. |
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| Falcon-X |
I give myself completely to my girlfriend, I would never want to be with someone else, be it for sex or anything else and she feels the same way.
Also I dont think I could have better sex with anyone else. It's a part of the relationship as much as love and anything else and so I think it should not be practiced outside of it. |
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| Falcon-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Well guess what: "feelings" are pretty meaningless in this discussion. |
Maybe for you if you completely seperate feelings and sex. I dont. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Falcon-X
Also I dont think I could have better sex with anyone else. It's a part of the relationship as much as love and anything else and so I think it should not be practiced outside of it. |
Why is it "a part of the relationship as much as love and anything else?"
I'll tell you why: it's because you've arbitrarily decided that it is. You don't prohibit your significant other from having a meal with someone else, do you? Well, then why sex? Give me an objective reason, not a feeling. |
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| Slylee |
| lol this is really comical. that's why i don't bother, and no, it's not because i don't know how to argue. i just don't enjoy arguing with someone with such ridiculous points of view, it annoys me. you seem to just go against the popular topic for the sake of arguing sometimes... |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Falcon-X
Maybe for you if you completely seperate feelings and sex. I dont. |
Feelings and sex don't need to be seperate. Feelings don't have relevance in this discussion because they are a personal matter: they apply only to oneself. In order to establish a general principle, you need something that applies beyond merely oneself - thus feelings cannot fit the bill. |
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| Falcon-X |
And not wanting your partner so sleep around with other people is not being possessive it's just normal in a relationship. I dont see why your in a relationship. To have someone to do your lunch in the morning? or to split the rent.
WOuld you also not mind if she loved another guy at the same time? |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
lol this is really comical. that's why i don't bother, and no, it's not because i don't know how to argue. i just don't enjoy arguing with someone with such ridiculous points of view, it annoys me. you seem to just go against the popular topic for the sake of arguing sometimes... |
Pointless ad hominems and a weak attempt to cover up a hasty retreat. Your comments are a wasteland of meaning. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Falcon-X
WOuld you also not mind if she loved another guy at the same time? |
It's none of my business how she feels about any person or any thing. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Give me an objective reason, not a feeling. |
Erm... Arbiter, wouldn't pregnancy and STDs count? Condoms aren't 100% effective after all, and I'm going as rational as I can. |
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| Falcon-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Feelings and sex don't need to be seperate. Feelings don't have relevance in this discussion because they are a personal matter: they apply only to oneself. In order to establish a general principle, you need something that applies beyond merely oneself - thus feelings cannot fit the bill. |
You just proved my point. This is your opinion wich is clearly not the majority and it it YOUR personal matter. So dont try to establish a general principle and thus your opinion is meaningless |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Erm... Arbiter, wouldn't pregnancy and STDs count? Condoms aren't 100% effective after all, and I'm going as rational as I can. |
That's why I brought trust into the discussion earlier. You have to trust someone not to get an STD or cause a pregnancy. Sure: it's possible that it could happen anyway. But you don't tell them they can't drive because it's possible they could get into a car crash. |
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