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Disabled Canadian sub: SAILOR DEAD!!!
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| ShadoWolf |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3717906.stm
Nine hurt on stricken submarine
HMCS Chicoutimi
The submarine was sold to Canada by Britain
Nine crew members have been injured after a fire on board a Canadian submarine sparked a major rescue operation off the west of Ireland.
The HMCS Chicoutimi is now drifting without power in poor weather.
The Ministry of Defence said there were no plans to remove any of the 50-strong crew from the vessel.
A Royal Air Force Nimrod from Kinloss was diverted to the area and a Royal Navy Sea King helicopter was sent from HMS Gannet in Ayrshire.
The submarine was making its way to Canada after being officially handed over to its new owners by the Royal Navy on Saturday.
A Canadian Forces spokeswoman confirmed that the crew was safe.
Captain Holy Apostoliuk said: "The submarine, while transiting from UK to Canada, experienced a fire while at sea off the west coast of Ireland.
HMCS CHICOUTIMI
Type: Long-range diesel-electric patrol submarine
Displacement: 2,185 tons (surf.), 2,400 tons (sub.)
Length: 70.26 metres
Speed: 12 kts (surf.), 20 kts (sub.)
Patrol Endurance: approx 8 weeks
Complement: 48 crew, 5 trainees
Diving Depth: 200 metres
"The submarine and its Canadian crew left Faslane on 4 October and was en route to Halifax, Nova Scotia, when the fire occurred.
"The cause of the fire has not been determined but it was contained and is now out."
She said that the sailors who experienced smoke inhalation did not need to be evacuated from the vessel.
"The submarine is currently without propulsion north west of Ireland," she added.
"The Canadian Forces are working in co-operation with the Royal Navy, who will assist the Chicoutimi as required.
"We are in the process of informing family members."
Turned round
The alarm was raised by the captain of the submarine, which is not nuclear-powered or carrying nuclear warheads, shortly after 1500 BST on Tuesday.
The request for assistance came from the vessel some 100 miles north west of Ireland.
Neil Smith, a spokesman for the Faslane submarine base on the Clyde, said that the Royal Fleet Auxiliary vessel Wave Knight had turned round and was on its way to the scene.
A Type 23 frigate, HMS Montrose, was being sent from Faslane, accompanied by tug boat support.
A Faslane spokeswoman said that the electrical fire on board the Chicoutimi had resulted in smoke throughout the vessel.
"She is now on the surface and everything appears to be all right," she said.
The MoD confirmed that nine people had been injured on board the submarine.
Weather conditions in the area have been described as extremely bad, with rough seas.
The Chicoutimi was originally built for the Royal Navy, when it was known as HMS Upholder.
They have been plagued by a lot of problems
Bill Casey
Canadian MP
It was bought by the Canadian Navy, where it is now one of four Victoria Class long-range patrol submarines.
Canadian MP Bill Casey said there had been a series of problems with the vessels.
"They have experienced overheating, they have experienced leaks, they have experienced rust," he said.
"They have had to have the exhaust valves replaced, which is a huge valve in the middle of the boat which redirects the exhaust whether the boat is submerged, partially-submerged or on the surface.
"They have been plagued by a lot of problems."
Handed over
The Chicoutimi was renamed and formally handed over to its new owners during a ceremony at Faslane on Saturday.
The vessel had been due to arrive in Halifax, on the east coast of Canada, on 18 October.
This is the second time in a month that the Chicoutimi has been involved in a rescue at sea.
Last month, she was involved in an incident when an ocean-going tug boat accompanying it ran aground off Skye during sea trials.
Eight sailors were taken off the tug by Portree lifeboat. |
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| ShadoWolf |
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europ....sub/index.html
Fire idles Canada sub in Atlantic
Tuesday, October 5, 2004 Posted: 2:41 PM EDT (1841 GMT)
LONDON, England -- Britain launched a rescue operation to recover the crew of a Canadian submarine after a fire on board the vessel in the Atlantic, the UK Ministry of Defense says.
The ministry said the British Coast Guard received a mayday call Tuesday morning from the HMCS Chicoutimi, a diesel-powered submarine, saying there was a fire on board.
Three people have been injured, none seriously, the ministry said.
Three ships are on the way to the submarine, which is about 100 miles northwest of Ireland, to pick up the 48-member crew. The ships are expected to arrive Wednesday morning.
"The cause of the fire has not yet been determined ... the submarine is currently without propulsion northwest of Ireland," a Canadian navy spokeswoman told Reuters.
It is not clear how much damage was suffered by the submarine, which is now on the surface of the Atlantic Ocean and is not moving, the ministry said.
The Chicoutimi -- one of four secondhand submarines which Canada bought from Britain -- was on its way to Canada when the fire broke out. |
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| VERTiG0 |
| What the hell do we need submarines for anyway? Scaring the out of foreign fishing boats in the Grand Banks? |
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| ShadoWolf |
| THE LIEBERALS MUST GO!!! |
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| arek |
first the helicopter, now the sub.
what next? |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by arek
first the helicopter, now the sub.
what next? |
Those brave men and women put their lives on the line for us, and we give them crappy equipment!!
Vote the Lieberals out!! :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
I have typically voted Liberal...but I agree that their treatment of the Canadian Armed Forces since WW2 has been absolutely disgusting. After 1945, we had the largest navy behind the USA and Britain, with over 800,000 men in uniform and advancing aerial technology (the Avro Arrow, though it was the Tory Diefenbaker who put the end to that).
No nation can be taken seriously on the internation level without a proper military. |
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| RobbyG. |
| I remember a few years back when a Canadian pilot was "Top Gun" pilot in the states AND that a Canadian sniper team holds the World record for the furthest kill ( In Afguanistan)...Yet with the outdated equipment, we STILL kick ass whenever/wherever the Canadian Armed Forces are serving... |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
It is embarassing. I mean we have one of the highest tax rates in the world, and our gov't has allot of money.
If your citizens are going to risk their lives serving our country, get them so decent equipment.
Fuk the liberals. |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by RobbyG.
I remember a few years back when a Canadian pilot was "Top Gun" pilot in the states AND that a Canadian sniper team holds the World record for the furthest kill ( In Afguanistan)...Yet with the outdated equipment, we STILL kick ass whenever/wherever the Canadian Armed Forces are serving... |
The Canadian soldier made that sniper record with an American rifle wearing British fatigues.
here's the first hand account
LINK |
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| d!abolic |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Those brave men and women put their lives on the line for us, and we give them crappy equipment!! |
We never fight anyone, so essentially they WOULDN'T be putting their lives if it wasn't for the EQUIPMENT :haha: |
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