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Sharing livesets = legal?
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| T3nchI |
| Just making sure,because I uploaded a liveset on my webspace and I'm sharing it. |
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| Derivative |
yea it is. check on some of your vinyls. loads of them say that its illegal to copy, reproduce or perform this record in whole or in part.
but then again, that technically means that playing a dj set is breaking the law cuz its an unauthorised performance.
i wouldnt be too worried about it. record companies have bigger fish to fry than someone who shares a DJ set. like mr. joe kazaa junkie who has 200 upload slots and sits online all day sharing thousands of mp3s per day. |
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| auujay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
yea it is. check on some of your vinyls. loads of them say that its illegal to copy, reproduce or perform this record in whole or in part.
but then again, that technically means that playing a dj set is breaking the law cuz its an unauthorised performance.
i wouldnt be too worried about it. record companies have bigger fish to fry than someone who shares a DJ set. like mr. joe kazaa junkie who has 200 upload slots and sits online all day sharing thousands of mp3s per day. |
Quoting from what I wrote in this thread over in the DJ Booth (http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=216342)
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The fine print about public performance is really about playing it in front of a crowd. The club/bar/whatever vanue you play out at must have an additional license to play recorded music to the public. This license they have allows the DJ to come in and play his/her records even though they say "not for public performance".
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As for livesets not recorded by you it depends. Usually the copyright is owned by the radio station that broadcast it (Radio1, ID&T, etc.). Of course if it was not recorded on the radio it is a different story and really depends. |
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| Trance Nutter |
It would be pretty damn harsh if they prosecuted you for using tunes in a promotional setting. The fact is, especially in edm, livesets by name djs and non-name djs give record labels their exposure - leading to increased vinyl sales.
I listen to James Cosgrove, Paul van Dyk, Tiesto, Boomer, and other guys in the amateur djs section, hear songs that fit my style and then go out and buy them. I wouldn't hear them otherwise , so it wouldn't make sense fo rthem to start ing djs over, especially when we don't get any money for promotional stuff. |
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| starglider |
| Sharing livets is technically illegal, but I doubt you'll get in trouble for it. |
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| flavdave |
| Whoever provides your webspace probably won't like it. |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
I listen to James Cosgrove, Paul van Dyk, Tiesto, Boomer, and other guys in the amateur djs section..... |
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| auujay |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
It would be pretty damn harsh if they prosecuted you for using tunes in a promotional setting. The fact is, especially in edm, livesets by name djs and non-name djs give record labels their exposure - leading to increased vinyl sales.
I listen to James Cosgrove, Paul van Dyk, Tiesto, Boomer, and other guys in the amateur djs section, hear songs that fit my style and then go out and buy them. I wouldn't hear them otherwise , so it wouldn't make sense fo rthem to start ing djs over, especially when we don't get any money for promotional stuff. |
While I completly agree with you, the exact same thing can be said for mp3 sharing ala napster/kazaa/gnutella/dc. However, as far as I know people are getting in trouble for sharing ablums and singles, not livesets. |
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| |cEbLu3 |
| i think i read somewhere that sharing livesets ripped from the radio isn't illegel, but i may be mistaken |
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| Renegade |
There was a case down here recently where a DJ was taken to court by a record label for distrubuting demos with their copyrighted material on it, but I think his problem was that he was selling them I think (i.e. for profit) rather than just handing them out on CDRs.
On the other hand, I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for putting up their own mixes for download, regardless of which labels they use. Even if you have tracks in the mix that any given record label would rather you didn't have in there, then the worst you can expect is a "cease and desist" letter rather than any legal action (unless you fail to comply with their request that is). As for putting up sets recorded from the radio, I think that recording and distributing anything from the radio is technically illegal (or at least it is in Australia - although even playing the radio in a public place, like a shop, without a licence is technically illegal down here) but again I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted for distributing radio mixes even if (as in the case of freshlymixed.com) they distribute them for profit.
In other words, you'll be fine. :) |
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| ziddy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
I listen to James Cosgrove, Paul van Dyk, Tiesto, Boomer, and other guys in the amateur djs section, |
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| tu_face |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
but then again, that technically means that playing a dj set is breaking the law cuz its an unauthorised performance.
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no, it doesnt (unless its an illegal rave). a dj plays in a club, the club pays for a license to play music to the public. this means that the music is payed for, although the money never ges to the right place, otherwise electronica artists would be rolling in it, which they are not.
yes, essentially livesets are illegal, but no-one really cares. they are great promotion, and its not as if you can get a full rip or anything from them.
unless you sell a mix or liveset (see renegades post) people won't be bothered. however, if you post them here, it can only be your own set mixed by you, in the DJ promotion forum. any other links to other live sets will be removed :) |
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