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Whats the best manner to build a tracklist for a set or an album"? (pg. 3)
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| sleepydragon |
mix what the hell u like why r u asking other people what u should mix like.
uve got to develop ur own style of mixing and stand out from others that the difference between a good dj and a bad one |
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
its just not very original - its like starting with the standard 2/3 prog tracks then banging out tiesto tracks. Its boring & predictable & its been done - its formulaic. A lot of 'amateur djs' on here are far too hung up on becoming the next ASOT Armin style dj. Attempting to be like anyone else is the most obvious sign of you being on the wrong path. What makes these tracks 'classics' anyway? the fact that djs like armin / pvd / tiesto have all played them & 'finished' on them. It would be much better to mould out your own track that you finish on, like PvD with Dreamland a few years back, if you really must insist on having a 'finishing track'. |
01. 2pac - Changes
02. Danny Bionicci and Luke Chable - Ride
03. Modulation - Spirits (Beat Pusher Remix)
04. Nubeuo Umatsu - Aeris Theme (Piano Version)
05. PQM - Nameless (Accapella) / Momu - The Dive
06. BT - Content
07. Vadim Zhukov - Energy Driver
08. Interstate - I Found U (Placebo's e Reconstruction)
09. Oceanlab - Clear Blue Water (Ferry Corsten Remix)
10. Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Armin Van Buuren Remix) / (Chill Out Remix)
11. Bush - Letting The Cables Sleep (N.O.W Remix)
12. Olive - You're Not Alone (Infiniti Remix)
13. Sasha - Wavy Gravy
14. Portishead - Dummy
15. Massive Attack - Antistar
16. Prodigy - One Love
17. Prodigy - Everybody In The Place (Fairground Remix)
18. Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin Beats
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by placebo
01. 2pac - Changes
02. Danny Bionicci and Luke Chable - Ride
03. Modulation - Spirits (Beat Pusher Remix)
04. Nubeuo Umatsu - Aeris Theme (Piano Version)
05. PQM - Nameless (Accapella) / Momu - The Dive
06. BT - Content
07. Vadim Zhukov - Energy Driver
08. Interstate - I Found U (Placebo's e Reconstruction)
09. Oceanlab - Clear Blue Water (Ferry Corsten Remix)
10. Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Armin Van Buuren Remix) / (Chill Out Remix)
11. Bush - Letting The Cables Sleep (N.O.W Remix)
12. Olive - You're Not Alone (Infiniti Remix)
13. Sasha - Wavy Gravy
14. Portishead - Dummy
15. Massive Attack - Antistar
16. Prodigy - One Love
17. Prodigy - Everybody In The Place (Fairground Remix)
18. Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin Beats
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at least you're unique |
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
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at least you're unique |
im not gonna say i didnt trainwreck, i did that like infy times. thank god for alcohol, the ultimate trainwreck fixer! |
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| Gunyouken |
I think you should mix what you would like to listen to.
If you where on the dancefloor or listening to a set What would you love to hear that no one else has done? DO THAT! |
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| thesuperfunk |
a good friend gave me this golden nugget a while back ...
| quote: | | before playing set I think what mood I am in and what tunes I want to play, and what tunes I just MUST play, when I start to play the set and I try to put into it that tunes I MUST play, and I fill blanks with tunes I like and which keep the mood |
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| Mortyman |
I always start my sets with something that's gonna grab the audiences attention. Whether it be a hard bassline, or a nice soft breaks track. I always end with HARD though, like Scot Project. My sets usuaully start soft, epic or prog, and end it Bangin!
I'm also working on a CD right now, and I always think about the structure of my set. I have certain songs that I definately want to put on there, now it's just a matter of organizing them.
Remember, your making a CD, and chances are not everyone is going to understand that your set is taking them on a trip. People hear certain tracks and don't really pay attention to what comes where, they just want to hear the goods.
...because lets face it, not everyone who listens to your CD will know their trance like you do! ;) |
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| PlasticSoul |
Thanks all that did help me.
This morning I was so relaxed and thinking in listen to some cute and serene songs for start a day.
So I mixed some stuff I like...
See the result:
Armin van buuren - song for the ocean
BT - Dreaming (Libra mix)
Paul Oakenfold - Hynotised
Rui da Silva - Touch me
Golden Scan - Of out times
Conjure One - Sleep (Max Graham remix)
BT - Mercury ad Solace
Dj Hooligan - Hear you now (Gran Chillas remix)
Starchaser - Falling star (Paul Van Dyk dub mix)
Sasha and Junkie XL - Breezer
Billy Ray Martin - Honey (Chicane club mix)
Subsky - Four days (Gil remix)
Unkle - In a state (Sasha remix)
Nalin and Kane - Beachball (vocal club mix)
It sounded so good and plain, in Dj Hooligan - Hear you now, I tried "start" again the set without lose the quality and followed 2 non vocal tracks, I ll show it to the people in my job to they learn what is quality electronic music.
Thanks again"!
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| Radagast |
| Yeah...well that would be pretty unique Ferengi if 2 Many DJ's hadn't done it before much better and with more variety. |
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| Phil raa |
most of this comes from experience, and your view of the music you're playing.
you need to research the crowd you're playing to - what sort of thing will they like on the night if it's a live set (are they a bouncy, techy, trancey, fast, etc crowd) or if it's for a demo cd then you can decide what sort of mood you want to take the listeners in.
first track is important because that gives the listeners an indication of that style of music the rest of the Cd will be.
one of the most important skills a dj has to have, for me, is to be able to keep the crowd interested with un known fillers.
anyone can drop [insert favourite track here], the trick to being a dj is to get the crowd to THAT POINT where they are ready and gagging to have their brains blown off :)
you can either bring in a track suddenly, to surprise the listener with their favourite catch part of a tune (called the 'hook' i believe) or you can very very subtely and slowly bring a new track in, so that the listeners get a hint, maybe 4 or 5 minutes before you even drop the track in proper. you might even drop a hook of the tune at 5 minutes into the record, then keep going with the previous track fo a couple of mins, then play the next track from the start (eg, the 'AHHH' in signums what ya got for me 3)
you might also want to bring in other elements of dance music. maybe you want to have a hard house 'hoover' sound once in the set, and can bring that "woosh" sound in at a particular time, to nudge the sets style on from one section to another (maybe to change from trance, to hard trance half way through the set)
mostly it's up to you whether to start with a banging tune and keep energy up throughout, or maybe you really do want to take it on a 'journey' and vary the style constantly throughout the set. if you do the 'journey' careful not to make it sound messy. you want the listener to think at some point "hey, this is differnt from what i was litening to 15 mins ago" and not "he's putting out lots of different sounds"
i've found that in live sets, there are lots of silences usually when a dj is 'testing' the crowd out, the silences are when they change style, maybe from melodic, to techy, etc.
you can either literally 'glue' the tracks together, or use some dj tricks. glueing the tracks can work fine if you have a certain style of music. and good track selection. using dj tricks can result in a more interesting, unique sounding set. (eg halliwell)
tracks don't necessarily have to sound 'nice' when they fade out/into each other - the chords might clash, but if the style of each track goes well with each other and takes the set to a new level, or the 2 style just go well with each other, not a prob. maybe pitching one record up will make it clash less.
something like that. :p
i actually hit 'post' then cos i was scared of my pc crashing :rolleyes:
other stuff you might want to consider is when you are going to drop your floor fillers - halfway through a 2 hour set can be a good time for the first sections 'peak'. if it's a cd, you might want to drop a couple of good tracks in the first half one after the other, and 1 unknown good track in the second, + 1 good KNOWN track in the second, maybe to finish. or make the good track the penultimate (last but one) track, and finish off with something to round it off, bring the energy level down slightly, and bring it to a nice comfy end. or elave it ripping their heads off :)
with a cd you get to think about and ponder exactly what you are putting out.
with a live set, i'd say the most important thing to do BEFORE the night is research your crowd. gatecrasher is different from frantic. during the set itself THE most important thing you can do is read the crowd, and decide what reaction you are getting from each style of tune you choose. you might have a couple of tracks you are dying to play out, and have a selection of 3 that sound inredible, but if you've just played another tune from that genre, and cleared the dancefloor - chances are it won't work :)
when you are DJ'ing, careful not to overdo the tricks (scratching etc) it may sound absolutely wicked, do it to your hearts content, but ppl are dancing to tunes, not necessarily dancing to hear you re engineer each record :) havin said that, if you add a subtle bit of magic to someones favourite 12" -- do something to it that they've never heard before - possibly especially if it's after another floor filler that you've played out au-naturelle and you are keeping the energy level that you've created going in full swing, they might luv ya for it.
*shrugs*
could be completely wrong of course. |
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