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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
That's a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, as there is no evidence that a religious USSR would have been any less brutal. |
1) You sounds almost as rediculous as Don Rumsfeld.
2) Czarist / Orthodox Russia, and the modern Russian Federation are both FAR less brutal than the USSR.
edit: and Taiwan & Hong Kong were less brutal than Mao's China. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
1) You sounds almost as rediculous as Don Rumsfeld. |
Irrelevant and once again fallacious.
| quote: | 2) Czarist / Orthodox Russia, and the modern Russian Federation are both FAR less brutal than the USSR.
edit: and Taiwan & Hong Kong were less brutal than Mao's China. |
You're confusing correlation with causality. I could just as easily point out that murder rates are lower in the largely secular nations of the EU, but it doesn't mean anything because there's no demonstrable causal link between religious belief and killing. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
You're confusing correlation with causality. I could just as easily point out that murder rates are lower in the largely secular nations of the EU, but it doesn't mean anything because there's no demonstrable causal link between religious belief and killing. |
There IS a causal link: religions generally teach peace and give people a moral compass. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
There IS a causal link: religions generally teach peace and give people a moral compass. |
Religions also teach poor reasoning and give people a false sense of absolute moral authority. However, bad people will do bad things regardless of their religion or the lack thereof, they'll just justify it differently. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Religions also teach poor reasoning and give people a false sense of absolute moral authority. |
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05752c.htm
| quote: | | However, bad people will do bad things regardless of their religion or the lack thereof, they'll just justify it differently. |
A true Christian would not murder, or is at least less likely, to murder hundreds of people. |
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| Arbiter |
Exactly. :)
| quote: | | A true Christian would not murder, or is at least less likely, to murder hundreds of people. |
How do you come to this conclusion? Christianity teaches one not to kill, and so does reason. There is no evidence other than a priori assumption that sane Christians are more likely to abstain from murder than sane non-Christians. |
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| Xenocreator_PG_ |
Dictionary Revised Edition
Religion: Brainwash of nonsense passed down from generation to generation
Bible: An old fairytale book.
A Miracle: Religious Magic an idiot believes in because it is outside their mental capacity.
Science: Discoveries that become the human perception of Fact.
Over Population: A couple of billion people over the quota
War: A way to reduce population
Birth Control: Aids, Career & Independant women with high levels of testosterone.
Metrosexual: A person who has spent all their life in an overpopulated city. |
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| töbias |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
i like missionary. :clown: |
I don't, I find it rather boring. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by töbias
I don't, I find it rather boring. |
Agreed. |
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| töbias |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Agreed. |
Even so, I liked the basis for his comment, and the creativity shown. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by töbias
I don't, I find it rather boring. |
I disagree.
Finishing with the Jackhammer is great.
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