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A Message from Markus Schulz (pg. 17)
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| InfiniteSquare |
so anyway...why is torontotrance a mod ?
there is no way in hell he is a good mod..he's the absolute worst and that is my opinion and the opinion of many others
lets vote him the out! |
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
so anyway...why is torontotrance a mod ?
there is no way in hell he is a good mod..he's the absolute worst and that is my opinion and the opinion of many others
lets vote him the out! |
I think he is a good mod. I don't agree with some of the things he says but he isn't really offensive or anything. And besides, isn't he only a mod in thr tracklist forum and maybe the Canada forums? |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
so anyway...why is torontotrance a mod ?
there is no way in hell he is a good mod..he's the absolute worst and that is my opinion and the opinion of many others
lets vote him the out! |
TTA is an excellent mod.
Yes he has opinions but he is very fair when it comes to resolving problems.
I think given Arturo's behavior and actions acting as a mod he is the one we should question NOT TTA. |
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| BigItalian |
Markus Rocks I love all the DJs.. they all have a different style and are all great..Maybe I just have a open mind I love all EDM and always can find a style that fits my day. We need to remeber DJs are people too.. and respect them.
Ciao for now :D
PS I dont know the mod so I have no hate for him ... |
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| Donna |
2 be honest,I dont understand why you post all this on a board where so many ppl have opinions bout the music and all what goes round in the scene.
You made the choice to be a known dj and that goes with the fact ppl are gonna have an opinion bout you.
You should stand above all that,and i think you do that very well.
These kinda post are to win souls,its a clever post tho,the ppl in here are young enough.
I wonder if other biggies wouldve done the same as u did when u posted this thread... |
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| GrimReaper |
This thread is pretty hilarious.. started calmly and turned into a burning "yes-no-yes-no" fight. Some amazingly well written posts and arguments in this thread tho.
Markus, great post, i agree on most parts there. Also i like most of your tracks and remixes even if lately some Coldharbour mixes don't really work for me at all, just feel like i've heard them a million times before. Your earlier works under the Edge Factor guise with McSpadden still are my favs.
For TTA as a mod, he might have strong opinions and he likes to point out his opinions too but that doesn't really make him a bad mod IMO, he at least has own opinions and doesn't jump on every OMG hyped bandwagon. |
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| Plastick |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Piazza
I finally am seeing the reason why TA is a great place for dance music.
The real fans of the music are now speaking.
A few pages ago I asked myself why i joined this conformist place but now I am remebering why. :)
Excellent posts:
tribu
tiesto14
DiMethGuy
TTA
you really have changed my mind on TA ; for the better.
Fight the Power ! |
I really dont see how tiesto14 had made excellent posts in this thread.
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Who is this Markus Schulz character anyway? |
Because he's an anti ms? |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
I have the sense that people are blaming me for the . Well I'll be blunt as usual, I doubt I'm going to stop saying that certain people are killing the damn scene imo nor I am going to hide. No offence Markus but you got too many people kissing your ass and it must be pathetic as feck. I respect Markus, he trying to make a career and pay the bills. I don't agree with where he is going but I just don't care. I figure that it is time to speak up at times and tranceaddict has always been that special place to do it. Here, you have both sides to everything and that won't change. Nice post Markus but I'm not going to change my views or stop saying what I want. I have the freedom of free speech and yes it does have limits but I have not crossed those limits. Markus will make the top 100 this year and his fans will be happy and his detractors won't be, nuff said. |
i was waiting for you to ultimately post, and this just made my night :D
perhaps i'm also blamed and am among the 's' who rip on Markus. I'm sure the guy's alright but nevertheless i rip on him, among other djs, on account of their djing/production skills that i particularly dislike or abominate. In any case, i likewise agree it was a nice post and i wish you the best of luck, but to make this concise, i agree with pretty much all TTA said.
now im off to bed... |
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| A.J. |
Great post from the man himself, Swamper
:D :D :D |
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| Dave Piazza |
READ THESE POSTS CAREFULLY. THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY ALL THIS TIME.
| quote: | Originally posted by trance-ecj
I read all the posts here and in the previous thread regarding an issue that'stied into this which was eventually closed.
Dave, I felt for you earlier, but it was really hard to read the pages afterwards with your comments...it got to be a bit childish and you let your "bad day" get the best of you when you needed to step up yourself to overcome what has happened. I think people woul have REALLY listened to you if you acted a little more....mature for lack of a better word.
Now seeing this post by Markus...I did a double take. Though I may not have agreed with your behavior earlier, Dave, I agree with what you are saying now. Respect to you Markus as a DJ/producer, but even though I am an outsider regarding the issue tying these two threads together, I was not swayed away from what Dave has been arguing and am a little concerned how quickly you decided to pop by and leave now that this issue has gotten big. Though I find validity in your post, I can't help but think that hidden behind your statement is a method to get people to turn away from the Dave incident and try to look at you as taking the high road and standing up for something that sounds good and looks as though we would need in this time where TA seems to be going downhill. Anyone can stand up and say flaming is bad. Anyone can stand up and say we should all respect each other, and it will all sound good. How can anyone say that's not right? It is right...everyone deserves respect and flaming can not only limit intellectual deliberation in a great public community, but can also unnecessarily hurt people.
However, it still strikes me odd that you posted this now, after a thread quickly grew regarding a situation involving you and Dave.
Again, I don't know the full story. My guess is that these "positive" comments are meant to stop people from perusing the issue regarding yourself. After all, if it is true that Dave was forced to stop critiquing you and your style, wouldn't it look bad for a big DJ to be concerned with 1 person's view? Maybe you fear his comments might yield others to begin seeing the same things. Just speculation.
Who knows. It might just be a coincidence that you posted here after all this talk. If so, respect to you for posting and sharing with this great community. But again, I'm here to say that I am not easily won by your comments until this is all resolved. I, as well, as others, have become interested in this mess, and I for one, am not gonna forget about it just like that. I agree Dave has the right to post his opinions (even if he comes off as a child...seriously Dave, don't let them win so easily) and that he shouldn't be silenced. I also believe that you, Mr. Shultz, are big enough to let whatever he says roll off your back. I don't know if this all goes back to you POSSIBLY being upset with Dave's remarks a while back, but your case hasn't won me over with one "positive outlook" post in a time like this where your name is being talked about a little more than usual.
I'm not exactly picking a side right now. All I'm saying is that just because Markus has posted something that everyone can agree with, and just because Dave went off a stupid rant earlier, it doesn't resolve the issue that was originally debated not too long ago...freedom of speech.
It'll be interesting to see where this ends up and what I eventually decide. If anyone thinks this whole thing is stupid, it's not. It really means a lot at this point. We got freedom of speech in the issue as well as how we view our DJ's and their actions. If Markus isn't involved in this whole mess, fine. Sorry it came to this. If he is and is upset with anti-Markus comments, it's not right for the DJ to take steps to make those comments "go away".
My word...may the discussion go on. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Remiks
Mr. Schulz, I'll call u that, I don't really think u have the right to call out admins saying they need to censor these boards more. If you might recall WW2 is over and the 3rd Reich has fallen, we no longer operate under fascism or the inluence of the iron eagle, plus these are message boards where listeners express distates, as well as what they do you like.Personally, I don't like your music, I think it sounds rather wanky, with a twist of wannabe the next Sasha, but I'm not making a petition to censor Markus Schulz' music. With that said, I don't understand why you take this "negativity" as a stepping stone to eliminating loyal followers of the scene, who are merely trying to be heard, because all the pop bull you/other dj's hammer who I won't even mention, must be clogging alot of ears. They are merely expressing their sadness more than anything that the music has turned for the worse, and if the only way they can get it across to you, is putting down the people who have plagued the scene with bad music, then the more power to them.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
The very reason a lot of people in the industry read this board is because users aren't afraid to voice their opinions - AND - mods don't censor things to cater to a certain DJ/label/whatever. The mods on here do a lot of work as it is - just because it isn't obvious to you doesn't mean threads aren't being closed/deleted or abusive users aren't being suspended.
Yes, there are lots of people on Tranceaddict that have a PASSION for EDM -- some are so extreme that they feel they have to trash other artists/DJs in order to make their point more valid. "DJ XYZ is garbage" / "You're a n00b because you like DJ ABC", etc.
I do not think the quality of the posts on here has gone down - what has happened though - is that those that like to voice their negativity do so more often - creating that illusion. Remember, if someone enjoys something they'll likely post about it once or twice - BUT - if they really disapprove of a track/artist then they'll make it their calling to go out of their way to make sure EVERYONE knows. They repeat their same opinions over and over again until they feel a point of saturation has been reached and enough people have seen their 'brilliant' thoughts.
How do you control this? Not easily. Sure, you could put up a whole ton of rules but where does it end? Eventually you have a bunch of restrictions and people are no longer comfortable voicing things for fear they may be in violation of one of them. I look at it the same as putting rules on little kids - they'll do whatever is in their power to bend them.
The roots of this are not TA specific - it is EDM specific. What I mean is, EDM 'fans' usually go through transitions - initially with people that were open-minded to this different sound -- a sound that could be heard at events not normally attended by the 'masses' -- thus contributing to the overall acceptance & tolerance that came along with being involved in the 'scene'. Somehow, as things grew & time passed, those that were around a while no longer felt like they were part of a small community -- causing them to feel like they were losing their 'identity' and had to branch out and funnel their tastes to a certain sub-genre or particular DJ(s)-- all the while dismissing what they once enjoyed - since it was now 'cheese' and loved by too many.
Dave, all the crap in this thread tonight was a little much, replying once or twice would have been sufficient - now you should take it to PM/email and resolve it - trust me - it can only get uglier if it stays in here. (in terms of flaming/comments/getting nothing accomplished)
The beauty of TA is that you can all say what you want, hell, you can tell me to off, but, you have to list your reasons if you do.
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| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
I have the sense that people are blaming me for the . Well I'll be blunt as usual, I doubt I'm going to stop saying that certain people are killing the damn scene imo nor I am going to hide. No offence Markus but you got too many people kissing your ass and it must be pathetic as feck. I respect Markus, he trying to make a career and pay the bills. I don't agree with where he is going but I just don't care. I figure that it is time to speak up at times and tranceaddict has always been that special place to do it. Here, you have both sides to everything and that won't change. Nice post Markus but I'm not going to change my views or stop saying what I want. I have the freedom of free speech and yes it does have limits but I have not crossed those limits. Markus will make the top 100 this year and his fans will be happy and his detractors won't be, nuff said.
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| Esrem |
It's very important having freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean we can stop being polite! If your angry and shouting at anyone in real life, it doesn't work, it doesn't solve anything!! Everyone only becomes more and more angry. If you're just calm and say what's on your mind, people will listen to you...
And I think, my opinion:D, it's a bit stupid to think it works different on the internet... |
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| Donna |
| its even more stupid to let others deside what comes out of YOUR mouth,just cuz they became big cuz of the internet.. |
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