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Islam must be reformed, else face elimination (pg. 5)
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| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
Is it just me or does anyone else smell a holy war brewing across the globe? |
I can see it happening.
Religion=cause of war |
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| Epicurus |
| quote: | | then you, more than anyone else here, should realize that more freedom has come from a barrel of a gun than any tool man has created. |
Only if this barrel of a gun has been wielded by the right people, for the right cause. In this case, neither has occured.
| quote: | | if 5 years from now some moron is still driving his car laden with explosives into a crowded Iraqi market, then what has Islam done for itself that would prevent such stupidity that the US has helped to realize? |
I can't say I understood what you were trying to get at. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Epicurus
I have a perfect understanding of western ideals of freedom and I find it incongruent that you're attempting to link my disagreement with you about justifications with western ideals of freedom. |
i have no doubt you do. but again, i'll tell you, to tell OBL, that his justifications are unreasonable. he lies, along with every other Muslem propagandist, to play on the street's fears.
you know, and every other educated Arab that listens to reason knows that U.S. interests in oil are as legitamate as any other countries interests. we do not steal oil. we can't steal oil. we pay for the same oil at the same prices as anybody else. in fact, we all know that eventually, the oil will be gone within our short lifetime. the reasoning that we are imperial oil pirates is a lie and has been perpetuated on the Muslem street by the ones that do not wish peace.
it's aggravating and no one is helping us. all we can do is show the peaceful muslem that we are willing to help in any way to realize freedom so that ingnorance and oppression does not seed hate. pretty ambitious, i know. it has to be done. the status quo was death by car bomb |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
Is it just me or does anyone else smell a holy war brewing across the globe? |
where in the f**k have you been? this is a holy war across the globe |
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| josh4 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
where in the f**k have you been? this is a holy war across the globe |
No, not quite yet. Getting there though.
P.S. It is spelled not F**K. If you're going to curse, then curse. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Epicurus
Only if this barrel of a gun has been wielded by the right people, for the right cause. In this case, neither has occured. |
thats what we do. and when we choose to do it, we've never failed. |
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| Epicurus |
| quote: | | i have no doubt you do. but again, i'll tell you, to tell OBL, that his justifications are unreasonable. he lies, along with every other Muslem propagandist, to play on the street's fears. |
I'll call him on my cell tomorrow for you.
| quote: | | you know, and every other educated Arab that listens to reason knows that U.S. interests in oil are as legitamate as any other countries interests. we do not steal oil. we can't steal oil. we pay for the same oil at the same prices as anybody else. in fact, we all know that eventually, the oil will be gone within our short lifetime. the reasoning that we are imperial oil pirates is a lie and has been perpetuated on the Muslem street by the ones that do not wish peace. |
Oh common Q5echo. I know you weren't born yesterday. I'm not accusing the US of "stealing" oil, whatever that means. I'm accusing them of using force for the purpose of controlling oil reserves for vested interests. Those interests are economic in the form of providing US oil firms with new territory to conquer, to continue maintaining Iraqi oil currency in dollars rather than Euros, to insure that the "oil weapon" of Arab states be never used against them as it was in 1973 by king Faisal, and to ensure economic leverage over other states that threaten US interests such as China, France and Russia. Those interests are also geo-political in nature, whether it be for political hegemony or stabilization reasons. I really hope I don't actually have to delve into this any deeper as I'm sure you're not as naive as you're souding right now.
| quote: | | it's aggravating and no one is helping us. all we can do is show the peaceful muslem that we are willing to help in any way to realize freedom so that ingnorance and oppression does not seed hate. pretty ambitious, i know. it has to be done. the status quo was death by car bomb |
The problem is that nobody believes this. They believe you're there for other reasons, and rightfully so.
| quote: | | thats what we do. and when we choose to do it, we've never failed. |
You've failed miserably in Vietnam, and the situation in Iraq is not looking very rosy right now.
Anyway, it seems you believe your own convictions, which is fine by me. I said what I had to say, so let's just leave it at that. We'll agree to disagree. |
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| Dunya |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
Watch your back kiddo;) |
Sounds like a thread?:nervous: :haha: |
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| NiteKiD |
you're a sick kid |
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| Cyrus King |
Shadowolf always posts the same three pictures of a couple extremists holding signs saying "islam will conquer the world"
you need to go on some lithium medication.
You will never defeat islam.. its the largest religion in the world. Have fun trying to fix the thoughts of 1 billion people. lol
Im so glad im an atheist |
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| tazzjayz |
As an non muslim Arab, I totally agree with the elimination of radical Islam. Muslims in general are pretrty layed back but once they start getting radical views, they deserve the get shot in the head. All the lame excuses about Israel are getting old. Muslims are killing themselves much more than Israel is killing muslims. In Iraq they're killing each other in Pakistan and Afghanistan sunnis and shiites have been killing each other. the Iran Iraq war killed millions. Saddam killed his own people, King Hussein of Jordan killed as many palestinians in one day than Israel killed in years. Yet the whole muslim world is raging their fists to Israel.
Well IMO it's only jealousy, muslims cant stand the fact that their are billions yet Jews are probably less than 50 millions worldwide. Yet the have so much money that thet're able to rule the world, the media and create propaganda. Well boo hoo wake up and do something about it. If Islamic countries werent as retarted as their are they wouldnt have such a ty economy. Thus they would have more things to do and more chicks to screw than covering their faces and worrying about their dear palestinian parasites. |
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