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The B!tch / Rave Robbers (spacefest/wmc info)
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| mister ben |
The Bitch
Rave Robbers
Ultra Music Festival, the annual one-day mega-rave that brought out an estimated 35,000 people this past March, is going to have some steep competition when it returns to Bayfront Park for a seventh edition in 2005. Club Space, the biggest nightclub in the city, is pitching a rival festival.
According to marketing director Ardis Robles, Space will have the tentatively titled Spacefest at either the park or American Airlines Arena the week before or after Ultra 2005. So there's no conflict, right? Not quite. Any DJs who choose to play at Spacefest will have to sign a noncompete clause, which means they can't play at Ultra, too.
"Whoever plays for Spacefest can only play for Club Space and Spacefest. They won't be able to play for Ultra, and vice versa," says Robles. Though peaceful coexistence has happened in the past -- Paul Van Dyk, for example, played at both Ultra and Space this year -- Robles warns, "The rules have changed."
Winter Music Conference became a cosponsor of the annual Ultra Music Festival this year, and has made it a major component of its weeklong conference, scheduled to take place March 22-26, 2005. Meanwhile, Space has filled e-mail lists devoted to the dance festival with screeds against WMC, recently criticizing the conference for being too short in length and vision.
The club will still offer DJ showcases at its downtown venue during Winter Music Conference, the international dance music event that attracts tens of thousands of people to Miami.
Most area nightclubs sponsor affiliated and unofficial parties during conference week; last year Space threw Spacefest without WMC's official participation. Robles says that Space talked with Ultra about working together on a second event in addition to the Ultra Music Festival for 2005, and that Ultra wasn't receptive to the idea. "We tried to work with them, and they didn't want to. So we were like, öWell, we either do it together, or we do it separate.' So we'll do it separate," she says. "We gave them a choice."
Considering Ultra's insane popularity, is Space crazy to challenge its ecstasy eminence? Robles insists that the club is already getting nods from many of the big-name progressive house and trance DJs who in years past have made Ultra a must-attend event.
"They're Space DJs. They're not Ultra DJs," she says confidently. "This is something that Space does for a living. [We] breathe this every single day. Ultra does this one time a year. These DJs have a relationship with Space and continue to play here. Paul Van Dyk, DJ Tiesto, Danny Howells, and Josh Wink were just here. You know what I mean? There's a relationship." She says Club Space will announce a tentative line-up for Spacefest this week.
What does Ultra/WMC think about all this? WMC cofounder Bill Kelly issued this written statement regarding the feud: "Ultra Music Festival 7 will continue to showcase a stellar lineup of DJs and artists from Bayfront Park, with over ten arenas and stages to cap off the week as the official closing event for Winter Music Conference 2005."
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| Bling |
damn looks like to hear tiesto pvd and the like looks more and more like spacefest. damn both ultra and spacefest for me gonna be insane
this is me before wmc week :)
this is me after wmc week
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| LiquidX |
Competition... Competition.
First off.. Will space be doing Spacefest bringing a crowd od 16 or 18+ ?? will they be letting those people into the fest..?? That's about the only way for them to have a chance on succeeding.. or else, Ultra will eat them alive.. |
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| TranCyn |
| quote: | Originally posted by mister ben
The club will still offer DJ showcases at its downtown venue during Winter Music Conference, the international dance music event that attracts tens of thousands of people to Miami.
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thats all i was worried about...
honestly i was considering not going to ultra this year, or at least avoiding the MAJOR acts and seeing the lesser known ppl, so this will probably make things during and around WMC more organized and a little less overwhelming!
ive already got my hotel from 3/22-3/26 (WMC week...hopefully all of my friends will come to their senses and book soon too...) and it wouldnt have been the same with out the crazy space nights... and terrace mornings!!! so this is good news for me!
I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!:eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: |
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| bobba lou |
| absolute garbage. |
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| MeLLyMeL |
| quote: | Originally posted by LiquidX
Competition... Competition.
First off.. Will space be doing Spacefest bringing a crowd od 16 or 18+ ?? will they be letting those people into the fest..?? That's about the only way for them to have a chance on succeeding.. or else, Ultra will eat them alive.. |
yup. atleast the first couple years for 'spacefest' will suck.. Only cuz of the rep ULTRA already has. :sigh: o - well |
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| Jeskot7 |
| Going to Ultra no matter what, space is imposing! |
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| Pauli55 |
| def Ultra! just hope to see Tiesto there... :conf: |
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| Mattivi |
| personally i think that ultra has really relapsed, especially last year, it just didnt have the same feel as the first ones, ULTRA 4 is still my favorite at this point.. but i think luis puig made some good points, the sets are too short at ultra, and sometimes two of your favorite djs set times are in the same slot so you have to pick one over the other, and that sucks.... i think the competition will be good for everyone, the fans and the djs...competition is in fact the driving force of our free market economy...so lets wait this thing out before we all start jumping to conclusions with "space is a bunch of bullies", and "everything is f-up now" psycho babble....one thing tho, i dont think it would be wise for the organizers at ultra to take this development lightly... space is a marketing machine and if there is anyone who can and will knock ultra off its perch, it will be luis puig and the rest the people at space...those guys are not not morons, no matter how much you despise them, they will make spacefest a success....i think its a given that tiesto wont be at ultra this year, and i think alot of other big djs, even pvd, will be thinkin, "am im going to snub my nose at space, who invites me 3-5x a year, and also pays me very handsomely to play at their club, for a 1.5 hour set at ultra?" my guess is alot of these djs are going to look at the big picture and choose spacefest over ultrafest. which isnt a neccesarly bad, it will give other djs an oppurtunity to showcase their skills at ultrafest. i probably will go to both, ultra is still the biggest and best organized rave in america, and they have the widest panorama of edm talent, no questions.. tho spacefest will be on a smaller scale, it defintly is a viable threat, remember ultra started off relatively small too, and evolved into what it is today...anyways, i welcome spacefest into the fold, afterall variety is the spice of life.... |
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| mdamon7278 |
| My opinion for ultra, is to scale back on certain DJ's, better marketing and advertising crew, and see how it goes from there, Ultra 5 was by far the best, Underworld, Oakenfold and Tiesto rocked that whole show, holy , and for luis, he is a tyrant, what does he want, more power to rule, and if that happens, good bye Miami!!! |
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| Zewad |
| PvD and Tiesto in American Airlines Arena with longer than 75 min sets? does this make anybody think of S&D at Hard Rock Live? <--ya,.. no brainer... (those who didn't attend, it was amazing to hear that kind of music in such a massive massive room with sooo many people, truely makes you think of the European style warehouses... insane:)) |
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| XxGrOoVeERICxX |
Bitches!
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We'll see how everything works out. Still about 5 months away, WAYYYY tooo early to start worrying about this now :clown: |
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