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Meth conference in Vancouver (pg. 4)
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| StereoPrincess |
and i'm not bending the truth, i'm telling you what the research is saying.
methamphetamine neurotoxicity is proven. MDMA neurotoxicity is not proven.
true story:
huge researcher doing research in the states puts out a paper that MDMA caused parkinsonian like symptoms in primates. millions of dollars of research done to show this. huge commotion in the research community over this. 2 months later, he retracts his study (imagine how embarassing), why? the animals were given meth instead of MDMA and some tech ed up the labels. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
how many heavy E users do you know? and when i say heavy i mean like crystal addict heavy? |
This guy who Im not friends with myself, but who is always partying with friends of mine that always hit up guv with me, apparently he's dropping like 6 pills right around the first 1/2 of the night just to get that good high feeling going on (needing to drop like 2 or 3 immediately just to "feel" anything) then then he'll proceed to drop around 4 more... usually a total of around 10 by the end of the night!
Thats INSANE... i cant imagine possibiliy conceiving that many and whut that must mean (and how hes not worried about whut it means to him)
he'll party like every other weekend, doing 6-10 pills in a night
:nervous: :wtf: :nervous: |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
he'll party like every other weekend, doing 6-10 pills in a night
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that is not heavy use.
do u know a meth addict? continuous uses for weeks. watch the movie spun. people don't come out of it for months. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
that is not heavy use.
do u know a meth addict? continuous uses for weeks. watch the movie spun. people don't come out of it for months. |
Thats insane. im glad i dont know ppl like that. i coudlnt be around them... thats sketchy beyond blief IMO
But whut are your thoughts on that whole 6-10 pills a night (if done every or every other weekend especially) :conf:
Oh, i forgot to mention the massive Comfort Zone sessions he likes to put in, so you can count on him dropping prolly another 4 if he heads to The Zone after Guv for an entire sunday session there. |
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| amb_ |
The Salton Sea is also a good film.
"I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean." |
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| Jem_hadar |
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IM very sorry,
I meant The Comfor ZOne when i said that
I did NOT mean Cuzo the person!
... I appologize for that for anyone that interpreted that in the wrong way!
Thanks RJ and SP for drawing my attention to that! |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
But whut are your thoughts on that whole 6-10 pills a night (if done every or every other weekend especially) :conf:
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Again if you think about it, he does 6 - 10 pills every 2 weeks. Spread out over the whole weekend. There is a lot of people that have developed a tolerance and 6 - 10 pills is not a lot for them especially the pills that are around in TO now. Dose for dose that's nothing compared to what those poor meth addicts do. But what you should tell your friend is that there is an off chance that there could be something else in those pills or in different ratios and that doing all of them at once at the beginning of the night could spell trouble. "If you don't know, take it slow". |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Again if you think about it, he does 6 - 10 pills every 2 weeks. Spread out over the whole weekend. There is a lot of people that have developed a tolerance and 6 - 10 pills is not a lot for them especially the pills that are around in TO now. Dose for dose that's nothing compared to what those poor meth addicts do. But what you should tell your friend is that there is an off chance that there could be something else in those pills or in different ratios and that doing all of them at once at the beginning of the night could spell trouble. "If you don't know, take it slow". |
WOw. Thats suprising that if assuming those pills were relatively clean, its not necessarily a big deal. hell, i worry about doing any more than 2 pills in a night, once at the beginning and once late in the morning to get my rush back up! |
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| Tb. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Thats insane. im glad i dont know ppl like that. i coudlnt be around them... thats sketchy beyond blief IMO
But whut are your thoughts on that whole 6-10 pills a night (if done every or every other weekend especially) :conf:
Oh, i forgot to mention the massive Comfort Zone sessions he likes to put in, so you can count on him dropping prolly another 4 if he heads to The Zone after Guv for an entire sunday session there. |
There is a point when pills just stop working, no matter how many you take after...the guy you're talking about probably double drops in order to get the same effects that most people would get from one pill...double dropping works for a while, but then you get used to the higher dosage and you're back where you started, with the exception that now the level of toxins in your blood are twice as high |
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| DigiNut |
| So, someone please clarify... will there be samples? |
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| Lephaid |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
let's try to not confuse the kiddies here. and keep the same terminology.
Meth - sold as a mixture of D and L isomers
MDMA - sold as a mixture of D and L isomers
in both cases the D is more active than the L. they do seem to think tho that both will have different toxicity levels.
but there is no way a meth lab is going to spend time to separate the isomers. |
almost all methlabs do, sort of.. the d- isomer has ten times the potency of the l- isomer. the l- isomer is mostly useless recreationally. they use chemistry techniques that only yield the d isomer. synths from l-ephedrine create mostly the d-isomer; phenylacetone is racemic, though.
same with mdma, the s isomer is mostly active while the r isomer is bunk... so the chemists goal is a synthesis that yields only the s isomer.
edit: ack. actually, racemic mdma is fine because both stereoisomers seem to have a synergistic effect. |
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