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on November 30th I show my love for Bush!
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| Kate Manus |
yes that's right.... the great satan is coming to Ottawa! :whip:
for the record, I have never participated in a protest here, even all the G7 & G20 summits when the city's downtown core was transformed into a sea of cops in riot gear from all over the country... kind of a weird site to see here actually. I know they are going to try to keep his agenda as secretive as possible to thwart the expected protesters.. but I've seen enough motorcades in this city over the years that I think everyone will have a chance to smile and wave to him... including me ;)
Bush to make first visit to Canada
By OLIVER MOORE
Globe and Mail Update
Prime Minister Paul Martin will have a chance to rebuild ties with the Bush White House later this month when he hosts a two-day visit by the U.S. President.
The last planned visit to Ottawa by Mr. Bush was cancelled when then-prime minister Jean Chretien refused to participate in the Iraq war. His office proposed several alternative dates, all of which were rejected by the White House.
Now, with Mr. Bush fresh off re-election victory and a new Prime Minister at 24 Sussex, the visit can go ahead. It will be the first visit to Canada by Mr. Bush, who is known to have a greater affinity for Mexico.
Mr. Bush will arrive in Ottawa on Nov. 30 and leave the next day. The itinerary has not been released, though the bilateral irritants between the nations are well-known. The visit will be of the official rather than the state variety, which means Governor-General Adrienne Clarkson will not be presiding and there will be none of the 21-gun-salute-type formalities.
Canadian politicians are upset about duties on softwood lumber exports and a ban on live exports of cattle. On the U.S. side of the border, many are still angry that Canada refused to participate in Iraq and there are concerns that the long and largely undefended border could be a conduit for terrorists.
The visit comes at a time when Mr. Martin is being urged by the Opposition Conservatives to forge closer ties to the United States. His own caucus is divided, though, on the wisdom of supporting U.S. militarism, particularly the controversial anti-missile shield the Pentagon is determined to deploy.
The United States has been pressing Canada to join its missile-defence plans and has been waiting for a decision. Earlier this month sources in Ottawa told The Globe and Mail that Mr. Bush would not insist on a deal during his visit, which was still speculative at that time.
Some Liberals have privately expressed concern that making a decision on missile defence near the time of Mr. Bush's visit would look like Canada was kowtowing to the U.S. administration. |
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| fastmp3 |
| i hope you will throw rotten eggs and tomatoes on him :happy2: |
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| Mike_B |
| i hope air force 1 crashes |
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| Steven Hays |
| I never understood what the point is of protests. I mean here in Austin they had like 400 people lying in the middle of congress not allowing anyone to drive by. What does this accomplish? Absolutely nothing. I mean why waste your time? I think you upset more people than you think. Just my .02 |
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| Mike_B |
ya it blows, and there's always some stupid teenager that start breaking windows and . But it can sometimes get a point across
protesting
not the window breaking part |
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| Kate Manus |
I've never participated in a protest in Ottawa. Sure.. I'm not crazy about multi-national conglomerates exploiting workers, but I wasn't about to join the masses for the G20 summit here.. because while I don't agree with all the issues, for the most part I think it's for positive change.
I'm not going to be carrying some sign, or chanting some catchy slogan.. and I know this won't change anything (besides, Bush is used to protests by now, in fact, he holds the title as having been responsible for the largest worldwide protest staged ever) but the more bodies in the crowd the better!! :D
I don't think you will see the type of protest where we will all be lying in the street in front of the Bunker on Sussex drive AKA the US Embassy, but I feel a moral obligation to let Bush know I think he sucks one way or the other.. hehe ;)
I just hope it isn't freezing that day! |
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| Mike_B |
| when is he comming im in O. tonight untill friday. im guessing quite later in the month |
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| Kate Manus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bronze
vous allez montrer la partie de notre pays sans respect.
Voyons...laissons la chance a paul martin de refaire des liens plus forts avec les USA.
aller protester de sert à rien a part donner une mauvaise image a notre pays...
ceux qui vont lèa...vous avez pas mon respect... |
While I respect your difference of opinion.. can you at least give one example of the courtesy & respect that George Bush has shown Canada??
like this:
"The last planned visit to Ottawa by Mr. Bush was cancelled when then-prime minister Jean Chretien refused to participate in the Iraq war. His office proposed several alternative dates, all of which were rejected by the White House."
Anyway, since the beginning of his presidency he has blatantly heralded Mexico as the US's *favourite* neighbour, I personally don't think Canada owes him , certainly not a warm reception when he comes to town. |
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| fastmp3 |
| bronze : monsieur george cherche par tous les moyens a nous enculer et tois tu lui souhaites la bienvenue :o |
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| Epicurus |
Bronze,
Merde man, t'es vraiment incroyable parfois : "La partie de notre pays sans respect"...
You are the definition of a moralizer. Expressing one's opinion is fine, but negatively judging and belittling an entire part of the population based on their differences with your personal and subjective opinion is plain ignorant; an opinion if I may add, that is not only skewed to the right, but completely misinformed.
First of all, there is a purpose to protests, although admittedly a minor one. The primary purpose of protesting is to convey a message of dissent to the protestee (i.e. Bush in this case). In other words, protests are meant to show resistance to a current state of affairs or to a specific person, in order to let him/them know that their policies are ill-received and that any future policies along the same lines will face stiff resistance in the court of public opinion.
Secondly and equally importantly, protests serve to bring attention to specific issues. The aim of protesters is to educate the public about certain issues that they feel derserve to be discussed. Usually, protestors seek to get onto the local, regional or even national news in order to convey their message to a wider audience.
Thus, the larger the protest, the more pressure is exerted on the person whose policies are under fire. This might yield a change in policy, a compromise on this policy, or (unfortunately) nothing at all.
Having said all of that, any positive ramifications stemming from protests are more than likely felt in the court of public opinion. Thus, if positive change does occur, the implicit assumption is that the protestee was somewhat succeptible to public pressure. Unfortunately, we're dealing with Bush here, and we all know how much public opinion counts in his book. So one can make a strong argument as to why protesting against Bush specifically is a futile exercise in vocal chord erosion.
However, I would embrace irrationalism in this case, show up to the protest in anarchist gear armed with lemon cream pies, and risk a couple of weeks in jail for a good shot at his ugly chimp-like mug. |
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| Kate Manus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Epicurus
However, I would embrace irrationalism in this case, show up to the protest in anarchist gear armed with lemon cream pies, and risk a couple of weeks in jail for a good shot at his ugly chimp-like mug. |
Bush.. or Chimp? hahaha... I never tire of the comparisons. :haha:
here's about 20 examples
Bush or Chimp? |
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| discojoe |
| haha nice website. bush is a monkey. |
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