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Is it cheating to write down notes of song matching tempos?
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| Scot @ SJIRadio |
| Ok, I have been a long time music enthusiast, but never really DJ'd, so I went and picked up a set of Denon decks (with out bmp counters) and Yorkville 550n(550watt monitor). I have been starting to mix a bit, but I wanted to know if its common practive to jot down the tempo adjustments required to mix certain tracks together :o Thanks :D |
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| rooibos |
| Not at all. People write it down on vinyls and even sort there vinyls by bpm while spinning a set so they know not to pick a 139 bpm tune to mix into a 130. As long as you dont have a bpm couner..thats for kids. :D |
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| Scot @ SJIRadio |
| quote: | Originally posted by rooibos
Not at all. People write it down on vinyls and even sort there vinyls by bpm while spinning a set so they know not to pick a 139 bpm tune to mix into a 130. As long as you dont have a bpm couner..thats for kids. :D |
Awesome :) I just wanted to make sure that one day I am spinning infront of someone and they are like "what the hell is this? You are cheating!" lol |
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| DannyO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scot @ SJIRadio
Ok, I have been a long time music enthusiast, but never really DJ'd, so I went and picked up a set of Denon decks (with out bmp counters) and Yorkville 550n(550watt monitor). I have been starting to mix a bit, but I wanted to know if its common practive to jot down the tempo adjustments required to mix certain tracks together :o Thanks :D |
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it sounds like your saying, you jot down the BPM at 0% and so you know how much you have to change a pitch to get it to say 142bpm, so that when your mixing another track, you know at what percent to change it to make it the same bpm, if so, you can do this, but if you walk into a club and the decks ain't configured properly, then this will not work how you'd like it to, as some Techs are faster at +6% than another Tech at +6%, mine are like this, and you find its like this in many clubs, so even if you memorised all the picth adjustments to get them to the same bpm, this would then be useless, but if you mean just gotting down the BPM of the track at 0% just so you don't have to change the pitch to much and make it sound weird, then this is ok, and my whole post is now useless. |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scot @ SJIRadio
Ok, I have been a long time music enthusiast, but never really DJ'd, so I went and picked up a set of Denon decks (with out bmp counters) and Yorkville 550n(550watt monitor). I have been starting to mix a bit, but I wanted to know if its common practive to jot down the tempo adjustments required to mix certain tracks together :o Thanks :D |
Don't listen to these clowns. You need to learn how to beat match and hear keys in records. More importantly you need to know your records and know where and when to drop a track. It takes awhile to learn how to mix. If you’re serious about DJ'ing it will take you 4- 6 months to learn. If your half-assed about DJ'ing it will take you 1 -1 1/2 yrs. Seldom will anyone ever masters the field but they will improve their skill the more they practice. Akin to making art, mixing is a result of hard work and patience. It will take time but as long as your are learning to mix with music you like and believe in it will be a fun experience. There is no in way your going to be able to pull off a 2 hr. gig in a dark club or house party other than through the time-tested dj'ing approach.
Practice Practice Practice |
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| DannyO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Piazza
Don't listen to these clowns. You need to learn how to beat match and hear keys in records. |
Exactly who here said for him to basically not bother learning to DJ by ear?, everybody know you have to do it that way otherwise you'll never make a good set, but if hes just righting down the BPM on his records, so what, I don't do it but if he does, who cares, I've heard about big DJs doing this aswell, just incase they wanna drop a track, but not waste time finding out that they can't get it fast enough, although they should know that pretty much anyway. |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by DannyO
just incase they wanna drop a track, but not waste time finding out that they can't get it fast enough, although they should know that pretty much anyway. |
I agree. I organize my record box in certain categories. It helps me pick records faster. I don't have my records keyed but I know my records well (this is the principle I was hoping to tell Scot @ SJIRadio ). If you know your records well you instinctively know how it sounds and where to drop it. You not going to fool anyone trying to hack it. For example, I make sure I know my records before I play them out. Even if it’s a super new promo I will wait until I feel comfortable using it. TBH sometimes you can feel a record and you can just drop it but more often than not I have to listen to the track for a few days until its placed in my box.
I believe the question Scot @ SJIRadio asked was whether it was normal practice to calculate the bpm to mix a record. My answer was NO !
Anyone who thinks you can DJ by using software or some bull math formal is either 1) a dumbass and/or 2 ) someone that has no idea how to DJ. I believe the latter is more appropriate for those who answered his question with a yes. |
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| miamitranceman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Piazza
Anyone who thinks you can DJ by using software or some bull math formal is either 1) a dumbass and/or 2 ) someone that has no idea how to DJ. I believe the latter is more appropriate for those who answered his question with a yes. |
More and more top DJ's are using software now along with their decks to mix however. |
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| Philby |
| at the end of the day who gives a ?? if you want to know how fast one of your records is and writing it down will help you remember then fine, i would have thought everyone does something like that. if some punk thinks you are cheating then pick up the turntable and smack him with it. |
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| AMP |
| I dunno. Iv just never seen the need. |
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| miamitranceman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Philby
if some punk thinks you are cheating then pick up the turntable and smack him with it. |
And then learn to DJ ONLY using software cause that's all you'll have that's still working. :D |
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