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Question for the religious nuts (pg. 4)
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| Zild |
| What does religion have to do with dinosaurs. I thought organized religions were formed to hide the true spiritual meanings of our greatest teachers from the profane. Thus creating a dependence upon a priest class to misguide the people and live off their donations go God. |
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| .montecarlo. |
| quote: | Originally posted by ierxium
I have yet to understand the interest between dinosaurs and religion. What good does it do to find or not find an explanation in any given religion about the species?
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For one thing, the dated age of dinosaurs doesn't fit within the common creation timeline... that the eath is less than 10,000 years old. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
Dinosaurs (then called dragons prior to the mid 1800's) are thought to have been lost in the Great Flood.
But they somehow are still around such as in Job 40:15-24:
15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
The hebrew word behemoth is not used again. It is not thought to be an elephant but with a tail like a cedar it isn't possible. The word beast is used to describe cattle and other similar animals, but not in this verse. |
Well if thats not a description of a T-Rex I don't know what is!!! |
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| TuanAnh213 |
| quote: | Originally posted by .montecarlo.
For one thing, the dated age of dinosaurs doesn't fit within the common creation timeline... that the eath is less than 10,000 years old. |
how can anyone decipher earth being only a 10,000 years old? that just tosses christianity and creationism down the toilet |
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| Dunya |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Tomer
Not trying to start a long and pointless thread, but after seeing how much depth some of the people on this forum go into when explaining themselves, and the validity of their religion, I just had to ask:
How does religion explain dinosaurs?
Again, not asking to be a prick, but I seriously do want to know what the religious take is. |
Well take bible, thora or a quran and read:o.
Maybe you will discover more things.:rolleyes: |
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| Dj Tomer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dunya
Well take bible, thora or a quran and read:o.
Maybe you will discover more things.:rolleyes: |
I was taught the bible from kindergarden to grade 9, and I lived next to an ultra-orthodox rabbi for 13 years of my life, so I know more than I want about it. |
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| Cal |
OK I havent read all of this thread becuase thats just crazy, but one take on religion vs science, and one i subscribe to is this:
One of the basic principles of christianity is the principle of choice. God wants us to believe in him, but he wants us to CHOOSE to believe in him. So if the bible had instead listed the Big Bang theory and talked about microbes and cells and evolution instead of the 7 day mambo jumbo people would pretty much have no choice but to believe in his existance because they would have irrefutable proof that god is real because nobody knew about cells and evolution 2 thousand years ago. So instead god did what he did, and by that left the choice to the people.
Also, theres the okham's raisors principle that goes "the simplest explanation is probably the correct one" meaning the bible is fake. :tongue2 |
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| Sevas Stra |
| The bible's explanation is probably the easiest one there is. And i seriously doubt God made the version of creation to give people a choice. His version, the way it is in the bible, is the most childish thing ever. In fact turning to the other forum, the world couldn't possibly exist for 10,000 years. I am a man of both science and faith but with proof for both. |
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| Dj Tomer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cal
OK I havent read all of this thread becuase thats just crazy, but one take on religion vs science, and one i subscribe to is this:
One of the basic principles of christianity is the principle of choice. God wants us to believe in him, but he wants us to CHOOSE to believe in him. So if the bible had instead listed the Big Bang theory and talked about microbes and cells and evolution instead of the 7 day mambo jumbo people would pretty much have no choice but to believe in his existance because they would have irrefutable proof that god is real because nobody knew about cells and evolution 2 thousand years ago. So instead god did what he did, and by that left the choice to the people.
Also, theres the okham's raisors principle that goes "the simplest explanation is probably the correct one" meaning the bible is fake. :tongue2 |
So God chose to lie to people in order to 'trick' them into believing in him? I guess that's why they say the root of believe is lie. |
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Tomer
Not trying to start a long and pointless thread, but after seeing how much depth some of the people on this forum go into when explaining themselves, and the validity of their religion, I just had to ask:
How does religion explain dinosaurs?
Again, not asking to be a prick, but I seriously do want to know what the religious take is. |
Well, my take is that God but some f*cking lizards out there because he was bored, got tired of them, then smote them. He threw us out there next and started seeing WTF we'd do. Hope he ain't gonna smote us when he tires of us as well!
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| Cal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Tomer
So God chose to lie to people in order to 'trick' them into believing in him? I guess that's why they say the root of believe is lie. |
Its like this: god putting stuff about microbes and cells and evolution in the bible instead of the creationism that is there now would be like a guy coming up to you and saying "I want you to make a choice whether you want to believe that the earth is round or not on your own. Oh and by the way heres some extensive evidence, studies, photos, and videos that prove that earth is in fact round."
Not much difficulty making THAT choice is there.
But again, like i said, alot of people would agree that that particular explanation of why the bible is so wrong and contradictory in some parts is really stretching it.
You gotta make up your own mind about this. |
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| Tranceporter99 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Only a fundamentalist Christian would even attempt to disagree with the existence of dinosaurs and with the theory of evolution. From a scientific standpoint I know that evolution is real. Its markedly obvious when studying proteins to see the evolution from one type of protein to the next. There was a girl in my Organic Chem 2 class that tried to argue with the professor about evolution. She claimed she was standing up for all the "christians". |
its simple really, science is how god works through nature, for example, god created evolution. God works through things and people, thats how I see it |
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