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Brand New whitelabel skipping help ! (pg. 2)
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| WhiteBlade |
I have those setting
height: 4.5mm
tracking: 3.5g
antiskate: 0g
overhang: 52mm
I try the same setting on both table with both cartrige brand new
One one table the two cartrige are skipping on the other the two are perfect whitout any skipping at all.
So it really and ajustment I have to do wich I didn't have time to play with yet cause I'm out with the familly :(
Hope the two screw on top and on the right of the tonearm mounting will fix this.
Putting more wight is useless cause it should be working like on the other table anyway ! |
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| trance85 |
I've got mine set to:
height: 5.0mm
tracking: 3.0g
antiskate: 0g
overhang: 50mm
It seems to work fine for me, though I'm not sure, it seems like I might have a problem with one of my tables since it seems more prone to skip. Maybe you're having the same problem? |
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| tu_face |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ken_Allen
Uhm...put more weight on the tonearm? You all think vinyl costs $30,000. Don't be a , put weight on it. You can buy the record over again in 5 years when it finally wears a little bit |
don't be an idiot, yes you can buy some records back, but there are loads in my collection that are unreplaceable. the same applies to many people, you can't just replace a lot of vinyl. besides which you obviously have no clue about the problem at hand, which is to do with the screws on the tonearm, not the tonearm weight.
zizack, you should saved your time and money and let them break in. i own 3 whitelabels, every single one has skipped straight out of the box. i leave them on a record overnight, and whaddya know, they are amazing.
trance85, just carefully bend the wires up a bit so that they don't touch the record :) |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by WhiteBlade
I have those setting
height: 4.5mm
tracking: 3.5g
antiskate: 0g
overhang: 52mm
I try the same setting on both table with both cartrige brand new
One one table the two cartrige are skipping on the other the two are perfect whitout any skipping at all.
So it really and ajustment I have to do wich I didn't have time to play with yet cause I'm out with the familly :(
Hope the two screw on top and on the right of the tonearm mounting will fix this.
Putting more wight is useless cause it should be working like on the other table anyway ! |
I only reccomend slightly adjusting the screw on top of the tonearm and leaving the screws on the sides alone. Remember to be very careful when doing the bearing adjustment as you could crack your bearing if you overtighten the screw.
I haven't had any Whitelabels skip out of the box but I was only doing light backcueing with them. Its well known that high end Shure DJ carts need to be broken in overnight before they preform best. Once they're broken in they stick to vinyl like super glue. |
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| dj chex |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ken_Allen
Uhm...put more weight on the tonearm? You all think vinyl costs $30,000. Don't be a , put weight on it. You can buy the record over again in 5 years when it finally wears a little bit |
:wtf:
I nominate you "Chode of the year" |
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| mr. sound |
1. adjust your tonearm so when the level is on zero the tonearm floats parallel to the platter
2. set the weight according to the shure standards! any less or any more can result to record burn. (lower then factory weight != lower record wear)
3. now adjust the height of the turntable. do this by placing a record on the platter; adjust until the tonearm is completely parallel to the record.
4. now set the antiskate to either 0 (if you backcue really hard and scratch) or to half the value of your weight.
5. your tonearm should look like this when placed on vinyl
edit: picture coming soon |
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| cheesy |
| quote: | Originally posted by mr. sound
1. adjust your tonearm so when the level is on zero the tonearm floats parallel to the platter
2. set the weight according to the shure standards! any less or any more can result to record burn. (lower then factory weight != lower record wear)
3. now adjust the height of the turntable. do this by placing a record on the platter; adjust until the tonearm is completely parallel to the record.
4. now set the antiskate to either 0 (if you backcue really hard and scratch) or to half the value of your weight.
5. your tonearm should look like this when placed on vinyl
edit: picture coming soon |
Why will lower weight not wear records as much? |
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| mr. sound |
| quote: | Originally posted by cheesy
Why will lower weight not wear records as much? |
i was told by an ortofon representative that lowering the weight may cause the needle to jump within the groove which will cause more damage then if played with the proper weight setting. not to mention added distortion. |
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| Zild |
| With Whitelabels you can use 2-3g but with Ortofons you need 4-5g. |
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| mr. sound |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
With Whitelabels you can use 2-3g but with Ortofons you need 4-5g. |
whitelabels are 1.5 grams - 3 grams of stylus weight. ortofons depending on what stylus you are using should be around 3 grams weight, unless you are using the new elektros which are 4 grams weight. |
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| tu_face |
| quote: | Originally posted by mr. sound
i was told by an ortofon representative that lowering the weight may cause the needle to jump within the groove which will cause more damage then if played with the proper weight setting. not to mention added distortion. |
i think that depends on how low you go with the weight. anything under 1g and you would be right, but over that, the more weight you have the more record wear you will hear. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by mr. sound
whitelabels are 1.5 grams - 3 grams of stylus weight. ortofons depending on what stylus you are using should be around 3 grams weight, unless you are using the new elektros which are 4 grams weight. |
I always dial in 3g when using the Shure carts and about 4.5 when using Ortofon carts. I scratch alot though so I need the extra weight, Qbert reverses the weight and maxes it out so I think I'm doing alright. Bottom line Ortofons use about 50% more weight then the Shures and I think the Shure's stick a hell of a lot better. |
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